re: Star Trek Geek Discussion: Is Enforcing The Prime Directive Realistic?

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all of the maps I just posted are officially licensed maps, and none of them are the same.

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How in the world is this officially licensed? The Romulan Neutral Zone has been canon since the OS. Unless I'm missing something they don't even share a border in this version.

And don't you dare try to explain that it's a 2D map of a 3D galaxy and they could share a border at some other angle.

Picard was best friends with Beverly Crusher, and Data was friends with Geordi.

If I had to rank Data's friendships from greatest to least I would rank them:

1. Geordi
2. Wesley
3. Tasha
4. Picard
5. Guinan
6. Troi
7. Riker
8. Warf
9. Dr. Pulaski

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And of course Data sacrificed himself to save Picard in Nemsis.

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Nemesis? Get the frick out of here. All your points are suspect.
The films were trying to recreate the Kirk/Spock dynamic, that never existed on the show. And you spelled Nemesis wrong, some fan.

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Picard routinely allowed and encouraged Data's pursuit to be more human and defended him when scientists wanted to rip him open because they only saw him as a machine.

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It was his job, literally what a commanding officer is required to do, has nothing to do with friendship. And Picard tried to convince Data to go with Commander Maddox and had to be set straight by Guinan. Some friend.

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Are they as close as LaForge? Of course not. But they are close.

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Which is why I said the show should have been called LaForge.

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What? Not that close? Closer to everyone else? That's ridiculous. You really think he was closer to Riker, Worf, and Crusher than to Picard?

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Riker called him his friend
Worf apologized to Data and said he hoped he hadn't ruined their friendship
and as for Crusher, just watch Data's Day. Data is closer to Keiko and Miles O'Brien than he is to Picard.
Have you ever watched ST:TNG? Do you have any friends?

The last scene of All Good Things... is specifically about Picard beginning to have a personal relationship with the senior bridge crew.
This thread is for people who know shite about Star Trek.
You don't know shite about Star Trek.

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Nemesis? Get the frick out of here. All your points are suspect.
The films were trying to recreate the Kirk/Spock dynamic, that never existed on the show. And you spelled Nemesis wrong, some fan.

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This might be the stupidest rebuttal I've ever heard. It was clearly a typo. It's the only correct way to spell the word nemesis. It's not like I had the correct spelling of the word but didn't know that the super secret official way to spell it Star Trek is different and that only Star Trek fans would know it.

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It was his job, literally what a commanding officer is required to do, has nothing to do with friendship. And Picard tried to convince Data to go with Commander Maddox and had to be set straight by Guinan. Some friend.

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He defended his right to live when others saw him only as a machine.
He defended his right to be a parent and defended his and Lal's right to live when others saw them only as a machines.
He gave him command of the Sutherland when others didn't trust having an android in charge.

He wasn't obligated to do any of those things. He could have easily not supported Data in any of those major scenarios and Star Fleet would have backed Picard in his decisions. Hell in some of those instances Star Fleet ordered Picard to comply because he was so adamant in his defense of Data.

Did you even watch the show?

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Are they as close as LaForge? Of course not. But they are close.


Which is why I said the show should have been called LaForge.

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You think a show about Picard should be called LaForge because Data is in the show and LaForge and Data are closer friends?

Yikes.

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Riker called him his friend
Worf apologized to Data and said he hoped he hadn't ruined their friendship
and as for Crusher, just watch Data's Day.

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So your examples are 2 characters calling him a friend one time each? And you're able to list one whole episode that shows any time of friendship between Data and Crusher? That's some thin evidence over so many seasons and several movies for such a hostile response from you. Did they do anything even close to the significance of the 3 examples I just gave?

Again, there are plenty of other characters that are closer to Data than Picard, those 3 are not them. And it's blatantly incorrect to say Picard had the most disconnected/distant relationship to Data than any other major character on TNG.

Seriously, did you even watch?

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The last scene of All Good Things... is specifically about Picard beginning to have a personal relationship with the senior bridge crew.
This thread is for people who know shite about Star Trek.
You don't know shite about Star Trek.

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Again, just because Picard realized that he didn't socialize as much with the senior crew as much as he should have doesn't mean he didn't consider them friends or didn't have personal relationships with them after years of service together.

What an asinine comment.

If the Prime Directive were not in place, then Earth would have been part of the Federation much earlier. Without it the whole concept falls apart.