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So "The Arrow" is literally a Batman ripoff
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:56 pm
Watching the series (pretty good so far) and they are literally the same character with the same cover
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:04 pm to Tiger1242
Except with how they actually became hero's
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:05 pm to Tiger1242
Batman doesn't kill.
Bruce Wayne and Ollie are inherently different people. Ollie is a socialist hippie who fights against "the man." He champions social issues. Bruce Wayne is definitely more conservative in his views about society.
Batman is a much darker character than Green Arrow from what I've seen. I haven't read any green arrow comics but from the shows and Justice League, he does not have near the baggage that Batman does.
I don't think the Batman movies have really done a good job of portraying this but some of the comics do: Is Batman himself insane? Is he the catalyst for what's happening in Gotham. I get none of that from Green Arrow.
Those are my thoughts. But I do agree CW is trying to play up the comparisons.
Bruce Wayne and Ollie are inherently different people. Ollie is a socialist hippie who fights against "the man." He champions social issues. Bruce Wayne is definitely more conservative in his views about society.
Batman is a much darker character than Green Arrow from what I've seen. I haven't read any green arrow comics but from the shows and Justice League, he does not have near the baggage that Batman does.
I don't think the Batman movies have really done a good job of portraying this but some of the comics do: Is Batman himself insane? Is he the catalyst for what's happening in Gotham. I get none of that from Green Arrow.
Those are my thoughts. But I do agree CW is trying to play up the comparisons.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:10 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Except with how they actually became hero's
What you mean like their dad dying and them inheriting a ton of money to fund their superhero ness?
Or about being trained in some special skills away from civilization, and using those skills to try and fix their broken city?
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:16 pm to Tiger1242
Yep, and they are both badass
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:21 pm to Tiger1242
Can't you say the same thing about Iron Man?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:21 pm to Tiger1242
Oliver didn't initially train to "save his city" he did it to survive.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:22 pm to abellsujr
No?
Tony Stark is a weapons mogul and built a super machine, also doesn't have an alter ego
Tony Stark is a weapons mogul and built a super machine, also doesn't have an alter ego
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:23 pm to Tiger1242
quote:You have failed this board
Tiger1242
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:24 pm to Tiger1242
Yea, but he's a rich, smart guy who got his money from his dad. Batman has had some pretty cool gadgets, too.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:28 pm to Fearthehat0307
Why is that?
Hey I just started watching Arrow, this isn't a bash thread, those come when I really get into it
PS: This season of Supernatural has been interesting
Hey I just started watching Arrow, this isn't a bash thread, those come when I really get into it
PS: This season of Supernatural has been interesting
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:47 pm to Tiger1242
Don't talk bad about arrow. It's the best show on TV.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:11 am to Tiger1242
while there are a lot of similarities, there are many more differences.
oliver still has a family, he doesnt want to be a loner, he has killed many times, he isnt as protective on his "arrow" secret identity, he doesnt avoid romantic situations, he heavily relies on his team rather than himself due to his lack of detective skills, i could go on.
on the surface they seem similar, but they are extremely different.
oliver still has a family, he doesnt want to be a loner, he has killed many times, he isnt as protective on his "arrow" secret identity, he doesnt avoid romantic situations, he heavily relies on his team rather than himself due to his lack of detective skills, i could go on.
on the surface they seem similar, but they are extremely different.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:16 am to Tiger1242
Just started watching it myself last week. Im on season two now and yeah the Batman similarities are there.
I'm also in love with Felicity Smoak.
I'm also in love with Felicity Smoak.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:35 am to athenslife101
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Bruce Wayne and Ollie are inherently different people. Ollie is a socialist hippie who fights against "the man." He champions social issues. Bruce Wayne is definitely more conservative in his views about society.
Batman is a much darker character than Green Arrow from what I've seen. I haven't read any green arrow comics but from the shows and Justice League, he does not have near the baggage that Batman does.
I don't think the Batman movies have really done a good job of portraying this but some of the comics do: Is Batman himself insane? Is he the catalyst for what's happening in Gotham. I get none of that from Green Arrow.
Those are my thoughts. But I do agree CW is trying to play up the comparisons.
yeah but CW Ollie is nothing like DC Comics Ollie
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:52 am to RonBurgundy
They both have a sense of moral entitlement which is at the core of the character.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:39 am to wish i was tebow
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Don't talk bad about arrow. It's the best show on TV.
More of an observation than talking bad, it's a good show
Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:41 am to Tiger1242
The CW didn't try to hide this. The original plan years ago WAS Batman, but then WB rebooted the movie franchise with Nolan.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:50 am to Tiger1242
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Tony Stark is a weapons mogul and built a super machine, also doesn't have an alter ego
To be fair, it seems like half the city knows that Ollie is Arrow.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 8:01 am to BlacknGold
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So "The Arrow" is literally a Batman ripoff
The OP posts this like it's a negative, but I find it a much more enjoyable version of the "Batman story".
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while there are a lot of similarities, there are many more differences.
oliver still has a family, he doesnt want to be a loner, he has killed many times, he isnt as protective on his "arrow" secret identity, he doesnt avoid romantic situations, he heavily relies on his team rather than himself due to his lack of detective skills, i could go on.
This makes all the difference in the world. While I've enjoyed the Nolan Batman movies, I really don't think I'd watch a TV series about him, but Arrow is great.
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