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So I’m Just Back From Seeing “Dune II” & IMO, It Was Phenomenal Piece of Hollywood Magic..

Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:29 pm
The film captures perfectly the sense of magisterial history imbuing Frank Herbert’s mythos and is a sprawling Hollywood epic in every sense of the word.

The film masterfully encapsulates all the major motifs found in Herbert’s source material without diluting the socio-philosophical import of these grand themes: drug addiction as a means of societal control; the psychic toll of psychotropic induced mysticism; the inherent desire of humans to seek messiahs; how rulers manipulate the faithful for political control; the antagonism between faith & reason in daily life; the clash between secularist and fundamentalist world views; the authoritarian nature of mass political movements; ancient feudal disputes between opposing elite political houses; wars of a strained colonial empire; and the tension between matriarchal intuition/calculation vs. patriarchal decisiveness/action.

Is the movie fully faithful to Herbert’s narrative? No.

The female character Chani — a tribal native — is given a more prominent role and acts as the film’s moral critic of the story’s protagonist (and noble born) Paul Atreides’ ambiguous quest to fulfill his chosen role as a political/spiritual messiah.

Yet noteworthy in this era of “woke” Disneyfied Mary Sues: though the actress playing Chani was a strong and powerful female lead, not once did I feel I was being preached to by a moral superior but instead was witnessing a conflicted and wholly believable female character confronting the complex sexual politics that rules the universe of Dune.

Why a mention here on the PB?

Because I think it is important that a film which is not consumed with being woke but instead tries to transcend the partisan disputes of the current day in exploration of larger philosophical themes should reach a wide audience and be rewarded at the box office for that goal.
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:34 pm to
Movie board baw
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:38 pm to
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Why a mention here on the PB?

Because I think it is important that a film which is not consumed with being woke but instead tries to transcend the partisan disputes of the current day in exploration of larger philosophical themes should reach a wide audience and be rewarded at the box office for that goal.




"He just showed up & wanted to say "Hi!"."



Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:40 pm to
The spice must flow
Posted by boomtown143
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:41 pm to
It was pretty good

skipped around it seems....weird editing.

Not really a Dune person but it was def cinematic
Posted by bird35
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:43 pm to
Just left the movie. It was incredible. I liked the first one but this one was much better.

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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:46 pm to
https://psychedelicspotlight.com/dune-movie-psychedelic-frank-herbert-masterpiece-inspired-by-mushroom-magic/

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‘Dune’ Is a Psychedelic Sci-Fi Hit: 5 Ways Mushroom Magic Inspired Frank Herbert’s Masterpiece byTravis ReillyonOctober 26, 2021
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:46 pm to
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Movie board baw


In an era in which the Feral government dictates the flush-rate of my commodes to my health-care choices, EVERYTHIG is political baw.

Putting that aside, any meaningful discussion of any adaption of Dune will be inherently political because of the sprawling themes contained in Frank Herbert’s universe; it is deeply centered in the intersection of the human psyche with politics, philosophy and religion.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 10:04 pm
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:50 pm to
there is a movie board for this.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:51 pm to
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Just left the movie. It was incredible. I liked the first one but this one was much better.




The Part I (2021) was more expository in nature and provided a background for much of what happened in Part II. For those unfamiliar with the Dune universe, I highly recommend they watch Part I first.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 10:01 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:52 pm to
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Kaiju


Have you seen it? You are such a fan of the genre, I thought you would’ve been there opening night.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 10:00 pm
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:54 pm to
Just saw it. It might be the best piece of science fiction I ever saw, and I saw Star Wars in the theater as a kid. Watched it in IMAX and it was worth the price of the ticket. Just an amazing experience.
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:55 pm to
You got blue hair?
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

Dune’ Is a Psychedelic Sci-Fi Hit: 5 Ways Mushroom Magic Inspired Frank Herbert’s Masterpiece




I know it akin to comparing apples and oranges but it wasn’t until I read Dune as a teenager that I realized how much George Lucas cribbed …err….was influenced by the themes in Herbert’s universe when writing Star Wars.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 10:22 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:04 pm to

Sunday, if I can get a decent seat. I recently heard that Tolkien had read Dune, but wasn't overly impressed. But yeah, I'll give it a watch.
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:08 pm to
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You got blue hair?


You mean blue sclera?



This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 10:09 pm
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:10 pm to
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The female character Chani

Zendaya, Spiderman's woman. I'm a fan.
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:13 pm to
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The female character Chani — a tribal native — is given a more prominent role and acts as the film’s moral cri


Let’s deviate from the true source work and give a female minority a more prominent role and have her speak on morality

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Because I think it is important that a film which is not consumed with being woke

Ooooook lol
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:15 pm to
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Movie board baw



Yeah, who needs that hardcore Fremenist agenda here anyways?


Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:16 pm to
I am hitting it at 1400 on Sunday. I wanted to go today, but life intervened.

For an almost 3 hour show, it's going to get ugly on the bar bill.
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