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re: Sinclair Broadcasting has given a list of demands for Kimmel to return to their stations
Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:47 pm to Bard
Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:47 pm to Bard
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At the very least, he's so heavily implying it that the difference is irrelevant.
It is irrelevant either way. Suggesting something that is blatantly false, when it is known that it is false, is no different that "stating" it if Corinithans wants to die on the hill that it wasn't flat out stated.
I'll disagree there though because if I said "Corinthians is doing everything he can to prove that he is anything other than disingenous", nobody would say i'm just merely suggesting he is disingenous.
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:50 pm to Corinthians420
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To qualify for protection, satire typically must be understood by the average person as an opinion or an exaggerated commentary, rather than a believable statement of fact, especially when it involves public figures or public concerns.
Cool. Doesn't answer the question asked. You mad the argument that it was satire because it was part of an opening monologue for a comedy show. Is it your assertion that every word, phrase, comment made during an opening monologue is satire? Every word, otherwise, your argument that this statement is satire does not hold up.
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He didn't present the shooter as being a right winger as a statement of fact.
Fairly irrelevant, but he did.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:51 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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if I said "Corinthians is doing everything he can to prove that he is anything other than disingenous", nobody would say i'm just merely suggesting he is disingenous.
Yeah this wouldn't be considered you making a statement of fact that I am disingenuous.
"doing everything he can to prove" is an opinion
Statement of facts are concise and don't dance around the point.
The sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
Water boils at 100 degrees Celsius at standard atmospheric pressure.
There are 24 hours in a day.
Kimmels statement clearly contains opinions.
"desperately trying" is an opinion.
"trying to character as anything other than one of them" is also an opinion (I didn't see anyone claiming the shooter to be a donkey)
"to score political points from it" also an opinion.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:57 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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refusing to use someone's preferred pronouns has been considered violence and worthy of censorship.
Not censorship from the government and all challenges to any laws like that have resulted in the law being struck drown.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 2:59 pm to Corinthians420
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Kimmels statement clearly contains opinions.
Correct, it does contain opions, but let's use suggestions as you used before, because everything is an opinion..
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"desperately trying" is an opinion.
"to score political points from it" also an opinion.
Hey look, you are catching on. Those are the "suggestion" parts of his statement.
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characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them
This part of the statement though, this is Kimmel declaring that he is in fact MAGA.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:00 pm to Dizz
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Not censorship from the government
If we are going this angle then, this isn't government censorship either.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:01 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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this is Kimmel declaring that he is in fact MAGA.
no it isn't.
that is him saying
MAGA is TRYING TO CHARACTERIZE this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them.
That is not a statement of fact that the shooter is MAGA
"trying to" is an opinion.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:02 pm to Dizz
So if Jimmy Kimmel showed a porn clip the FCC can’t tell them not to because “muh government intervention”? I see this too often, people who don’t know what capitalism is bitching about capitalism, people who don’t know what fee speech is arguing about free speech. Catch your head or learn what you’re talking about.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:02 pm to Madking
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So if Jimmy Kimmel showed a porn clip the FCC can’t tell them not to because “muh government intervention”? I see this too often
What a terrible question since obscene things aren't protected under the first amendment.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:04 pm to Corinthians420
You’re not the arbiter of truth and thank goodness because you’re a liar
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:04 pm to Madking
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obscene things aren't protected under the first amendment.
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You’re not the arbiter of truth and thank goodness because you’re a liar
The First Amendment's protection of free speech has exceptions for categories of speech the courts have determined are not protected, including incitement to violence, true threats, defamation, obscenity, fraud, and speech integral to criminal conduct.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:05 pm to Corinthians420
And this isn’t a free speech issue either dumb frick
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:08 pm to Madking
it is a 1st amendment issue regulated by the FCC
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:09 pm to Corinthians420
Wrong
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:10 pm to Corinthians420
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no it isn't.
Yes it is.
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"trying to" is an opinion.
Correct. It is his opinion on the actions of MAGA supporters. The actions of the MAGA supporters do not change the last part of his sentence.
The sentence has two parts, an account of what Kimmel believes MAGA supporters are attempting to do, and a statement of fact as to what Kimmel is claiming they are attempting to prove isn't the fact.
No wonder so many on the left struggle with the 2nd ammendment and how it is written.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:13 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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"trying to" is an opinion.
Correct.
So the sentence as an opinion. It really is that simple.
It isn't a statement of fact.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:13 pm to Madking
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quote: it is a 1st amendment issue regulated by the FCC
Wrong
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:14 pm to Corinthians420
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:14 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I love how they cheered on the actual canceling of so many people for disputable and made up offense coerced by government but are now melting over a suspension regarding incitement with input from a regulatory agency doing its actual job. These people are liars and they’re hypocrites. They don’t believe a single thing they say. This poster was actually part of the celebration after the assassination and was upset paramount didn’t want to keep the party going. The guy is pure scum
Posted on 9/19/25 at 3:15 pm to Corinthians420
Deflect and lie.
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