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re: Severance Season 2 Discussion (Spoilers)
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:23 am to MississippiLebowski
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:23 am to MississippiLebowski
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My innie got the message?
I was thinking about this today.
Some people were thinking that maybe Irv's outie was sending coded messages back and forth but that never made sense to me. Irv's innie was never the type to do that. He was too much of a company man.
When I first saw Irv's outie painting that picture over and over again I assumed he must have some sort of OCD.
But what if he was trying to get that image through his sub-conscious to his innie? Paint it dozens of times, deprive yourself of sleep and hope that your innie begins to see the hallway.
Then when he realizes that his innie woke up in his house and saw the paintings, he knew for a fact that his message was received.
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:56 pm to JoeHackett
I’m a bit confused on your thought there, how is outie Irv trying to send a message about the severed floor hallway to innie Irv? How does outie Irv know about it?
I could be missing something here, it’s already been a long day.
I could be missing something here, it’s already been a long day.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 1:05 pm to drizztiger
Def an interesting episode.
Do the goat people live there because they are pretty damn homely and doubt they are going through the normal Lumon entrance the others do?
At first I questioned if that was really Dylan's wife, but the outtie scene confirmed she is, however I think there is more to it than we know. She's associated in some way.
Do the goat people live there because they are pretty damn homely and doubt they are going through the normal Lumon entrance the others do?
At first I questioned if that was really Dylan's wife, but the outtie scene confirmed she is, however I think there is more to it than we know. She's associated in some way.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 1:20 pm to Lsut81
quote:The goats and goat people are definitely the most confusing. They don't look like they'd live on the outside, but one of them did mention his outie.
Do the goat people live there because they are pretty damn homely and doubt they are going through the normal Lumon entrance the others do?
quote:I believe there is a reason they showed her in uniform (security/police) as an outie, along with outie Dylan being kind of a bum.
At first I questioned if that was really Dylan's wife, but the outtie scene confirmed she is, however I think there is more to it than we know. She's associated in some way.
Mark's reintegration was great and I'm glad the show-runners aren't holding back on progressing the plot, while are also developing the characters. That was a huge issue for me in Silo S2.
I'll probably let this episode sink in a bit and rewatch again this weekend to fill in some spaces.
I will say that from watching interviews recently with cast/crew (no spoilers) that E4 next week is supposed to be epic. Don't know what that means, but some of the interviewers got a few episodes in advance and were raving about E4.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 1:46 pm to drizztiger
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I’m a bit confused on your thought there, how is outie Irv trying to send a message about the severed floor hallway to innie Irv? How does outie Irv know about it?
My only theory is that it isn't Irv's memory but rather someone else's. He's just attempting to pass along a message from whoever he's working with.
It all sort of stems from the theory that the innies and outies are polar opposites from one another. So I don't really see outie Irv as being haunted by a sub-conscious memory of the testing floor. I think he's the total opposite of the ultimate company man, he's leading or a major part of an underground movement to destroy Lumon.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 1:50 pm to MississippiLebowski
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Gonna be using a gif of that for the foreseeable future, would love to get my hands on a lumon cowbell.
Fricking State fans
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:00 pm to JoeHackett
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My only theory is that it isn't Irv's memory but rather someone else's. He's just attempting to pass along a message from whoever he's working with.
quote:The second part would definitely have to be part of it, otherwise he wouldn't have allowed himself to be severed. It would have to be part of a plan against Lumon and that would tie into someone (former-innie/Lumon insider) telling him about the hallway and he tries to get that bleed over into his innie.
I think he's the total opposite of the ultimate company man, he's leading or a major part of an underground movement to destroy Lumon.
I have to think on that, but it certainly seems plausible on the surface.
I do know Ben/Dan have talked about innie/outie bleed-over even from a first conceptual standpoint. Like basic things, they can speak English, tie their shoes, etc. so not everything is lost, but at what point does other bleed-over happen that the severance process hasn't perfected.
In your scenario, outie Irv is intentionally trying to cause that bleed-over. Again, seems plausible. I'm wondering where Burt fits into it, since he was watching outie Irv during the phone call after Burt met innie Irv during OTC.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:03 pm to drizztiger
quote:
I could be missing something here, it’s already been a long day.
I will admit that my theory comes from being up at 5:00. So it's really just a weird train of thought I had. It sort of went like this...
How do you get a message to an innie?
Irv's innie was getting info through his subconscious
WAIT what if that was on purpose
"My innie got the message"...
And then I was off to the races.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:04 pm to drizztiger
The question is, whats at Salt Neck where Cobel was fleeing to and why was there what looked like an oxygen mask/tube in her car 
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:07 pm to DarthRebel
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:08 pm to Lsut81
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oxygen mask/tube in her car
I do remember that being in S1. It was in her weird altar looking thing. Along with a medical bracelet with a name that I can't remember.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:39 pm to JoeHackett
Charlotte Cobel?
Am I reading that right.
Am I reading that right.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:44 pm to Lsut81
quote:I think that represents her mother. We can tell fairly easily that Harmony was born into the Kier cult.
Charlotte Cobel?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:52 pm to drizztiger
And I don’t think Helena was going to kill her… why would they kill her when she wants to work and finish the project, but they didn’t kill Petey or Burt when they did things downstairs that were detrimental?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:56 pm to Lsut81
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And I don’t think Helena was going to kill her… why would they kill her when she wants to work and finish the project, but they didn’t kill Petey or Burt when they did things downstairs that were detrimental?
Because she’s a loose cannon and she knows where the bodies are buried.
Lumon doesn’t have to kill innies, they can just turn them off. It’s kind of implied that innie Burt’s retirement may have had something to do with his misdeeds. Although that’s a little ambiguous, since outtie Burt looked pretty happy in the S1 finale. Regardless (as far as Lumon knows) Burt isn’t a threat once he’s retired.
I would have to go back and re-watch the Petey episodes, but as I recall he was on the run / hiding from Lumon. I seem to remember that he stopped showing up for work and was worried about what would happen if they found him. Also I think there was (is?) some denial at Lumon over whether reintegration is really possible. Ultimately Petey died before he could do any real damage on the outside.
Cobel is already on the outside and is clearly not stable. Lumon feels they can control her if they bring her back into the fold, but then she rejects the position they offered and starts making demands. I could totally see them pivoting to more extreme measures at that point. At a minimum, I can see why she would run.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:10 pm to JoeHackett
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Some people were thinking that maybe Irv's outie was sending coded messages back and forth but that never made sense to me. Irv's innie was never the type to do that. He was too much of a company man.
When I first saw Irv's outie painting that picture over and over again I assumed he must have some sort of OCD.
But what if he was trying to get that image through his sub-conscious to his innie? Paint it dozens of times, deprive yourself of sleep and hope that your innie begins to see the hallway.
Then when he realizes that his innie woke up in his house and saw the paintings, he knew for a fact that his message was received.
This is a fantastic theory that makes a lot of sense.
It also adds a layer to the question of Irv/Burt’s relationship on the outside. We see Burt watching him at the payphone. And now we know that O&D (Burt’s former department) used to make deliveries to the “exports hall” that outtie Irv has been painting. Certainly makes you wonder how Burt is involved with Irv’s efforts to get “the message” across, if the hallway was indeed the message.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:37 pm to lostinbr
Am I the only one who can hardly find friends that are watching Severance? I swear I only know like two watching this and it's phenomenal
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:46 pm to lostinbr
How long did Petey work at Lumon while being reintegrated?
Did he have both memories while still going to work? Will Mark?
Did he have both memories while still going to work? Will Mark?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:54 pm to ellunchboxo
I think next episode is gonna show the new blended Mark remembering everything he’s done at Lumon. He’s gonna go back in with a plan.
Should flush out Helena if it is her on the floor. There’s no way she wouldn’t snitch on him if she found out he was down there unsevered.
I’m curious if this new Mark sees something different on his computer screen.
Should flush out Helena if it is her on the floor. There’s no way she wouldn’t snitch on him if she found out he was down there unsevered.
I’m curious if this new Mark sees something different on his computer screen.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:10 pm to MississippiLebowski
The real mystery is why is everyone's car a piece of shite?
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