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Report: Zack Snyder was fired from Justice League

Posted on 2/13/18 at 8:54 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 8:54 am
For the longest time, Warner Bros. and Snyder were both pushing the narrative that he had stepped down from the project to be with his family after his daughter's death by suicide. Turns out that probably wasn't the case.

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It was obvious from the minute Justice League hit theaters that much of Snyder’s story and visuals had been scrubbed from the movie during the reshoot process, and the news that Snyder was fired in early 2017 just confirms that the intent all along was a rejection of his vision, not an effort to complete it.

It has since been revealed that the movie’s release date should have been delayed, but it wasn’t in order to protect some executive bonuses, so it can only be assumed that the attempt to pretend for a number of months that Snyder was still the director, then continue to spread the narrative that his vision was still being pursued afterward, was likely an attempt to maintain an appearance of stability for similar financial concerns.


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Warner Bros. reportedly expected Justice League to fail for months before release, so the decision to have Whedon change Snyder’s movie as drastically as he did was the studio going “all in” to erase what they saw as the harmful effects of Snyder’s take on the world and it’s characters, using the movie instead as an attempt to pivot characters like Superman into a lighter and more hopeful version of the Man of Steel. Based on reviews, the movie was at least successful in that aspect, with many critics rating Justice League a very flawed movie, yet labeling it as a step in the right direction for the franchise.



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Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120121 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 8:57 am to
DC is a mess
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25325 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Warner Bros. reportedly expected Justice League to fail for months before release, so the decision to have Whedon change Snyder’s movie as drastically as he did was the studio going “all in” to erase what they saw as the harmful effects of Snyder’s take on the world and it’s characters, using the movie instead as an attempt to pivot characters like Superman into a lighter and more hopeful version of the Man of Steel. Based on reviews, the movie was at least successful in that aspect, with many critics rating Justice League a very flawed movie, yet labeling it as a step in the right direction for the franchise.



All of that is very believable, and plain to see looking back at it. That movie must of been just horrible without the redirection of it. Still wasn't a great movie, but it definitely helps knowing this going into future DC universe movies.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64889 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:03 am to
Agreed. But I think that's because you are seeing the same studio interference that brought down the Batman franchise in the mid-90s. First off, I have no freaking clue what these suits saw in Snyder. He's always been a hit-or-miss director and the underwhelming critical and commercial response to Man of Steel should have convinced them not to allow Snyder to turn that film into a launching pad for his own DC Cinematic Universe.

At the very least, they could have waited until AFTER the release of Batman vs. Superman to greenlight his Justice League film. Had they done that, they could have made the necessary changes BEFORE a single scene was shot instead of trying to change the film almost entirely in post-production.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29117 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:03 am to
if BvS had come out before they started shooting i don't think he would have ever worked on the film.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
35992 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:14 am to
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At this point, it’s abundantly clear that reports that both Zack and Debbie Snyder’s involvement in future DC movies will be basically nonexistent are true.


Can we sticky this quote as a thread subject at the top of the M/TV board so people can quit bitching about Zack Snyder?
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37228 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:15 am to
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That movie must of been just horrible without the redirection of it.


Now I want to see Snyder's original cut more than the new version.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:16 am to
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That movie must of been just horrible without the redirection of it.


I really want to see the original cut.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
35992 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:23 am to
Snyder's original cut would've been amazing for Snyder fans.

It would've pissed everyone else off, but it would've been 180 degrees away from Marvel Studios and insane.

Fox can do stuff like this because they've had some core hits with the X-Men universe and they can afford to put out some weird shite. DC just has Wonder Woman (since Nolan's Batman) and can't afford to be experimental with their main characters.
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33656 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:25 am to
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I really want to see the original cut.

there's a surprise

how many JL rewrites have you completed so far?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:31 am to
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how many JL rewrites have you completed so far?



0. There's nothing I can work with. From what Whedon had, we got the Best Case Scenario. We need to go back to Man of Steel.
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 9:32 am
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11393 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:42 am to
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From what Whedon had, we got the Best Case Scenario.
LOL, JL was garbage thanks to Whedon.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33827 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:09 am to
Sentrius will fap to this
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:18 am to
I didn't think Justice League was all that bad.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58028 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:51 am to
quote:

should have been delayed, but it wasn’t in order to protect some executive bonuses


Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
2078 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 12:24 pm to
Assumed this as soon as they brought in Whedon to do "Batgirl."
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35244 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:00 pm to
Anyone who thought any different was in denial tbh.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35244 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:12 pm to
Mark Hughes of Forbes is claiming the reports are not true:



I would like to see proof Snyder was ACTUALLY working on the film in May.

Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

For the longest time, Warner Bros. and Snyder were both pushing the narrative that he had stepped down from the project to be with his family after his daughter's death by suicide. Turns out that probably wasn't the case. 



Look I'm no fan of Snyder at all as a director, but the guy is human. Using his daughter's suicide in a gotcha piece while taking digs at him is pretty fricking brutal IMHO
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
35992 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:25 pm to
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Mark Hughes of Forbes is claiming the reports are not true:

The "source" is a disgruntled reporter on his way out at Mashable. He put out a series of "don't give a frick" tweets as he left his job.

Now people are piling on and saying that it was knowledge common enough that the heads at Marvel knew that Snyder was fired (but these bloggers didn't want to say anything).

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