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re: Quantamania spoilers thread.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 4:15 pm to concrete_tiger
Posted on 2/19/23 at 4:15 pm to concrete_tiger
Saw it this afternoon, I liked it. Wasn’t first Avengers or Infinty War exhilarating but it was cool and did a solid job world building just enough. And while Antman and Co were the main protagonists, I see this as the first of what will become a longer line of Kang movies. Majors killed, especially in context of his Loki appearance which really added something to this one for me.
Loved the MODOK cameo and I’m fine with it being a one off; he’s kind of a weird character and would’ve felt weird shoe horning in for a longer run.
Loved the MODOK cameo and I’m fine with it being a one off; he’s kind of a weird character and would’ve felt weird shoe horning in for a longer run.
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Posted on 2/19/23 at 5:38 pm to tylerdurden24
I liked it. It was a fun popcorn flick.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 5:51 pm to Colonel Flagg
I'm really not sure where the bad reviews are coming from. It was a fun movie with a great villain.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 6:18 pm to tylerdurden24
Definitely got a kick out of MODOK.
I liked Kang a lot but do you think he can be a multi movie big baddy? He just got punked by an army of ants.
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I see this as the first of what will become a longer line of Kang movies
I liked Kang a lot but do you think he can be a multi movie big baddy? He just got punked by an army of ants.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 8:01 pm to Napoleon
The movie was okay, but it really underscored how the writings for the MCU have taken a dive since WandaVision.
First off, I agree with the consensus here that Cassie's character was annoying as frick. All she did was moan and whine about how her dad had been coasting since saving the universe.
Since.
Saving.
The.
fricking.
UNIVERSE!
When someone saves the universe, that's a "Coast for the Rest of Your Life" card. And to top it off, he brought her back from being fricking DEAD!
And what has her bratty arse done? Get arrested for protesting homeless people being moved out of a park. And the Pyms have supported her (great role-modelling there, Disney).
That the writers think this will make the audience care for her is just one example of their shite writing.
Another thing: they could have built up the thing about people being homeless from the Blip. Instead, it was barely a nod with the brunt of the topic being "police being mean to homeless". Today we have a MASSIVE homelessness problem and the vast majority of it is due to drugs (primarily opioids). Not stressing this was Blip-caused (much less going so far as to actually differentiate it from addict homelessness) comes across as preaching from astounding ignorance.
MODOK. I liked the idea. I liked the play with is name. The problem was it seemed like they couldn't decide whether they wanted him to be comedy fodder or a serious big-bad. It's very tough to write this well (see: Sloth from The Goonies) and they missed the landing on MODOK. They should have gone the latter route, making his face more menacing instead of him looking what I can only guess is what you see when looking at a Teletubbie while on LSD.
MODOK Part Deux. The fight against Cassie was a good idea and handled somewhat well, except for the end. The whole "don't be a dick" thing felt almost as forced as the "Girl Power Moment" from Endgame. She should have kicked him into the force field around Kang's ship. That would have felt more natural and FAR MORE satisfying than stopping in the middle of a fight to share feelings. It also would have saved us from the way-too-long and cringeworthy death scene (as well as his "noble sacrifice").
Bill Murray. I liked his intro, he did well right up until the troopers show up. I would rather have seen him go into an intense menacing mode. I've never seen that from him and think the rest of his scene could have done well with that change.
The final fight, I think it went on a bit too long. Hope's first blast or two should have done the trick. I mention this only because by this time the movie was already starting to feel like it was dragging a bit.
They dragged out the "big reveal" of Kang's name far too much. If this were a boxing match and saying his name was supposed to be a knockout punch, it had the impact of getting hit in the forehead by a drunk ladybug. All that overt foreboding for no payoff.
One of the biggest issues I had with the movie overall though was that much of the humor fell flat. There were some humorous parts, but mostly the jokes felt like there should have been a "LAUGH" sign for the audience. A laugh track from a 1970s episode of Scooby Doo wouldn't have been out of place. The little globby guy sucking enemies in when he finally got holes is a great example.
The main story itself was good and interesting. The immense CGI vistas made the movie feel... well... BIG (there's an irony there). Majors fricking OWNS the role(s?) of Kang. I was a bit skeptical with his portrayal in Loki, but he nailed it throughout the movie with this Kang and then at the end with Rama Tut, Immortus and... ??? (I see people mentioning the Beyonder but I don't know for sure). Along with this, the writers actually did a GREAT job of writing Kang to feel powerful (and the CGI for his armor was excellent).
And finally... how in the hell does Evangaline Lilly look older than Michelle Pfeiffer in many of their scenes together?
All in all, it was fun for a Sunday afternoon but I don't see myself changing channels to find it when it finally goes to streaming or playing on some cable channel.
First off, I agree with the consensus here that Cassie's character was annoying as frick. All she did was moan and whine about how her dad had been coasting since saving the universe.
Since.
Saving.
The.
fricking.
UNIVERSE!
When someone saves the universe, that's a "Coast for the Rest of Your Life" card. And to top it off, he brought her back from being fricking DEAD!
And what has her bratty arse done? Get arrested for protesting homeless people being moved out of a park. And the Pyms have supported her (great role-modelling there, Disney).
That the writers think this will make the audience care for her is just one example of their shite writing.
Another thing: they could have built up the thing about people being homeless from the Blip. Instead, it was barely a nod with the brunt of the topic being "police being mean to homeless". Today we have a MASSIVE homelessness problem and the vast majority of it is due to drugs (primarily opioids). Not stressing this was Blip-caused (much less going so far as to actually differentiate it from addict homelessness) comes across as preaching from astounding ignorance.
MODOK. I liked the idea. I liked the play with is name. The problem was it seemed like they couldn't decide whether they wanted him to be comedy fodder or a serious big-bad. It's very tough to write this well (see: Sloth from The Goonies) and they missed the landing on MODOK. They should have gone the latter route, making his face more menacing instead of him looking what I can only guess is what you see when looking at a Teletubbie while on LSD.
MODOK Part Deux. The fight against Cassie was a good idea and handled somewhat well, except for the end. The whole "don't be a dick" thing felt almost as forced as the "Girl Power Moment" from Endgame. She should have kicked him into the force field around Kang's ship. That would have felt more natural and FAR MORE satisfying than stopping in the middle of a fight to share feelings. It also would have saved us from the way-too-long and cringeworthy death scene (as well as his "noble sacrifice").
Bill Murray. I liked his intro, he did well right up until the troopers show up. I would rather have seen him go into an intense menacing mode. I've never seen that from him and think the rest of his scene could have done well with that change.
The final fight, I think it went on a bit too long. Hope's first blast or two should have done the trick. I mention this only because by this time the movie was already starting to feel like it was dragging a bit.
They dragged out the "big reveal" of Kang's name far too much. If this were a boxing match and saying his name was supposed to be a knockout punch, it had the impact of getting hit in the forehead by a drunk ladybug. All that overt foreboding for no payoff.
One of the biggest issues I had with the movie overall though was that much of the humor fell flat. There were some humorous parts, but mostly the jokes felt like there should have been a "LAUGH" sign for the audience. A laugh track from a 1970s episode of Scooby Doo wouldn't have been out of place. The little globby guy sucking enemies in when he finally got holes is a great example.
The main story itself was good and interesting. The immense CGI vistas made the movie feel... well... BIG (there's an irony there). Majors fricking OWNS the role(s?) of Kang. I was a bit skeptical with his portrayal in Loki, but he nailed it throughout the movie with this Kang and then at the end with Rama Tut, Immortus and... ??? (I see people mentioning the Beyonder but I don't know for sure). Along with this, the writers actually did a GREAT job of writing Kang to feel powerful (and the CGI for his armor was excellent).
And finally... how in the hell does Evangaline Lilly look older than Michelle Pfeiffer in many of their scenes together?
All in all, it was fun for a Sunday afternoon but I don't see myself changing channels to find it when it finally goes to streaming or playing on some cable channel.
This post was edited on 2/19/23 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 2/19/23 at 8:25 pm to biglego
Council of Kangs all but assures he will be a multi movie problem.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 10:26 pm to tylerdurden24
You think? He has an entire Avengers movie named after him 
Who you got in a fight? Kang or Thanos?
Who you got in a fight? Kang or Thanos?
Posted on 2/19/23 at 10:58 pm to WicKed WayZ
Dumb question, is Kang the new Thanos level villain for the after Thanos phases or is he just taking us to Dr Doom?
Posted on 2/19/23 at 11:11 pm to hg
Seems like Kang is the new big bad according to the future release schedule
Posted on 2/19/23 at 11:43 pm to Sun God
Just strange for the new big bod guy to lose in his first appearance to ant man and an a horde of ants.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 12:15 am to Sun God
Watched it tonight. Wasn’t terrible but it was far from great. Majors’ back has to be hurting from carrying the entire movie. Will never watch again however.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 2:08 pm to biglego
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also didn't care for the new Cassie.
She is a smoke show.
Gorgeous face and an arse I’d love to plow. And I can confidently say that bc I confirmed the actress is 26.
From Comic Con last year:
Posted on 2/20/23 at 2:18 pm to hg
quote:
s Kang the new Thanos level villain for the after Thanos phases or is he just taking us to Dr Doom?
Before this movie, I would have said he's Thanos level threat and I'd still say he's probably the second strongest the Avengers have faced but the last act made it seem like he's not quite on that level yet and maybe they are setting up for Doom to take over in Secret Wars. I always assumed Kang was going to be the big bad for both
Posted on 2/20/23 at 2:54 pm to biglego
quote:
I liked Kang a lot but do you think he can be a multi movie big baddy? He just got punked by an army of ants.
There's a million of him. A million Trevor Slatterys could be problematic if they all showed up at the same place/time, much less the one dude who's brilliant enough to have unlocked the multiverse and gamed the system to come out on top in practically all of them.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 3:18 pm to hg
quote:
Dumb question, is Kang the new Thanos level villain
I don’t think we’ll ever see a better, more powerful villain than Thanos, but a million Kang variants wrecking havoc across the universe in different timelines might be the next best thing.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 7:51 pm to tylerdurden24
quote:
Council of Kangs all but assures he will be a multi movie problem.
First thing I thought of when I saw Rama-Tut was "We wuz Kangs". I wish I was kidding.
Posted on 2/20/23 at 10:41 pm to WicKed WayZ
quote:
Before this movie, I would have said he's Thanos level threat and I'd still say he's probably the second strongest the Avengers have faced but the last act made it seem like he's not quite on that level yet and maybe they are setting up for Doom to take over in Secret Wars. I always assumed Kang was going to be the big bad for both
I’m really curious to see how this plays out once Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars arrives. On one hand, Kang and his variants definitely look the part as the phase 5 big bad but I just cannot wrap my head around Secret Wars without Doom playing a massive role. The entire Doom/Richards dynamic was the best part of that story imo. I feel like if Kang just slides into Doom’s role, it will still work but won’t hit like it should.
On the other hand, if Feige was going to properly build towards Secret Wars, the fantastic four and Doom should’ve already been introduced because at this point, I don’t believe there’s enough time to do both justice. Shoehorning Doom into F4 and Kang Dynasty only for him to get killed off shortly after in Secret Wars would be soooooo fricking stupid.
I kinda hope they involve Doom in Secret Wars but rather as an anti hero aligned with the Avengers to stop this multiversal threat, only for Doom to pull the rug out from under them after Secret Wars and become the big bad for the next phase when the mutants arrive. For the love of god, Marvel has to get Doctor Doom right this time
Posted on 2/21/23 at 6:13 am to tylerdurden24
quote:
his Loki appearance which really added something to this one for me.
Which begs the question - What specifically happened in the multiverse that made He Who Remains stop and tell Loki and Sylvie "we've crossed the threshold"?
I know eagle-eyed MCU fans figured out that the timestamp on that episode moment coincides exactly with the final ep of WandaVision, marking the moment she transforms into the Scarlet Witch, but we also have things like Strange's spell gone wonky in No Way Home to consider, too.
Another option is that the event he's referencing hasn't happened in the MCU yet.
I find that single part to be the most compelling component of Kang's story as we know him so far.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 8:49 am to biglego
quote:
The character was awful. Disrespectful naive sassy arrogant know-it-all with no common sense and a desperate need to be a savior to any cause she can find, even when she doesn’t understand the cause. Any adult figure who tries to teach her or protect her from herself is the bad guy who needs re-education and will learn life lessons from her.
I mean, that sounds like a teenager but more importantly a teenager in today’s times.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:51 am to VoxDawg
quote:
Which begs the question - What specifically happened in the multiverse that made He Who Remains stop and tell Loki and Sylvie "we've crossed the threshold"?
I know eagle-eyed MCU fans figured out that the timestamp on that episode moment coincides exactly with the final ep of WandaVision, marking the moment she transforms into the Scarlet Witch, but we also have things like Strange's spell gone wonky in No Way Home to consider, too.
Another option is that the event he's referencing hasn't happened in the MCU yet.
What they may be setting up is the cumulative effect from all of those events being what allows Kang that sort of access, or that those events allow for some other event to put Kang in the lead big-bad role.
Also, it may be that Quantum Kang shrinking below the quantum realm might make a comeback (maybe his shrinking that small plays a role in what comes next?).
With this exiled Kang being defeated by Scott and Hope, they are going to need to up his power level in order to make him as formidable as Thanos.
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