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re: Paradise on Hulu

Posted on 2/11/25 at 6:49 am to
Posted by dallastiger55
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 6:49 am to
We need more footage of the outside world
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 7:31 am to
If there are no weapons there (so everyone thinks) then why does the President need a full SS detail? Why not just a bodyguard?
Posted by dallastiger55
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 8:05 am to
So what’s the theory of why they wanted the president dead?

I kinda have a thing for Sinatra. Would smash

Also thought the shower scene with Sterling K Brown, and the therapist was cringe. And why is he wanting to distance from her? I would give her a damn key to my house
This post was edited on 2/11/25 at 8:06 am
Posted by MikeTheTiger11
Sip
Member since Sep 2023
770 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 2:16 pm to
Fallout meets The Truman Show... but not really
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

And why is he wanting to distance from her? I would give her a damn key to my house



I wonder if he doesn't fully trust her. For some reason I think she might have something up her sleeve but I'm just guessing of course.

But hell yea, I sure wouldn't kick her out of the bed
Posted by UnSmitty_Bop
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:12 pm to
SPOILER Episode 5








Racking my brain on how it isn't her. She has motive & knows that Billy disabled security footage for video games. Just can't imagine her bashing a skull. Did any of the flashbacks show his tablet being out of the safe before he bought it? Yeah definitely a lot more twists coming, show is riveting so far.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 7:26 pm to
SPOILER









quote:

She has motive & knows that Billy disabled security footage for video games.


The night of the murder, Billy, the female agent, and the daughter were all playing video games? The female agent sneaks away and kills the President? At some point, Billy or the daughter takes the tablet. No idea how they are gonna spin the tablet being taken.

Wild card, the Dad killed the President when he threatens to go the people with the news of the outside world.

Posted by Easye921
Mobile
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 8:29 pm to
SPOILER

So what are we thinking it was that ended the world? I'm assuming an asteroid, since they knew about it for a while.
This post was edited on 2/11/25 at 8:30 pm
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11445 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 8:46 pm to
SPOLIER





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SPOILER

So what are we thinking it was that ended the world? I'm assuming an asteroid, since they knew about it for a while.


Yeah, that's my guess. They knew well in advance that something was going to cause a tsunami/sea levels to rise significantly. That, along with nuclear winter looking landscape in the real world fits in with asteroid as well.
Posted by XenScott
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:43 am to
Asteroid hitting Antarctica causing major ice disruption/melt.

The father may have done it but i'm thinking the SS chick did it for Sinatra, a perfect super villain. I can't figure out how the girl got the tablet, and what's on the tablet that they can access.
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:23 am to
quote:

So what are we thinking it was that ended the world? I'm assuming an asteroid, since they knew about it for a while.


I'm going to look for a good screen shot of the tablet when the President was reading it, but I did get the gist of it I think.

I paused on that scene and could see some stuff about atmospheric changes and the explosion of either a super volcano or a bunch of super volcanos.

Not sure if there was more to it than that. Looking forward to reading the reddit pages on this when I have some time. I love this show so far. Great mix of flashbacks to keep our favorite dead characters still involved. Love the mystery and I'm a sucker for end of days type scenarios. I just hope they don't move too fast to get out of the bunker. I enjoy seeing what "normal" life is for the survivors.

I did pick up on Sinatra saying if others found out where they were they would be in danger. That seems to set up some kind of conflict with outsiders for maybe future seasons if not the end of this season. I also think Xavier's wife will be alive out in the destroyed earth at some point.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33276 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:27 am to
I’m hoping we get a lost type vibe when they find out there are others alive. Like when the light turned on in the hatch.
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
1905 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:34 am to
Read a synopsis on Reddit if you want to know what the tablet said.

Spoilers taken from a Reddit post:


Climate changes thinned out ice sheets. The thin ice sheets can no longer provide enough resistance to hold in magma from volcanoes, which erupt. Super volcanoes in Alaska and potentially Antarctica are specifically mentioned as world ending similar to asteroid impact. Predictions were coasts would be hit with 1500 foot waves and total destruction.

I'm sure there's more to it. Some guesses that nukes were used somehow and that would explain high radiation levels.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33276 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:49 am to
Oh yes, of course we would get a climate change narrative
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
1905 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Oh yes, of course we would get a climate change narrative


We'll have to see what the messaging is inside the show. Most reasonable people agree that climate change is happening...as it's happened for billions of years. We are currently at the end of an ice age so it should come as no surprise that the earth can warm up. The normal argument is how much is man made or preventable and not a topic I want to go into on the Movie TV board.

I'm no expert by any means and just read a few things about this today. But there appears to be a correlation between melting ice caps and volcanic activity. Whether there's causation or not I don't know, but it would make for an interesting scenario for a doomsday movie/show. How they handle the reason for the climate change could turn either side off. I can probably deal with either scenario as long as it's not an obvious overarching political message.

Posted by MikeTheTiger11
Sip
Member since Sep 2023
770 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

Billy, the female agent, and the daughter were all playing video games?


That was my question at the end of the episode as well. Why would Presley be at the president's house? Video games makes sense
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
1905 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

Why would Presley be at the president's house? Video games makes sense


I wouldn't be surprised if the President gave the tablet to Presley to give to her dad because Xavier is the only person the President trusted. Seems like he knew that his life was in danger.

If true the circumstances will be interesting as to why she was there (video games make sense) and what the President was going through. It looks like he was wounded and managed to live and crawl around after at least one blow, even marking the cigarette pack, before he died.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61313 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:08 pm to
I'm on the fence w/this one. The premise is interesting but the last few episodes had a couple ultra cheesy moments that kind of make me think this is going to become a ridiculous over the top melodrama.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11445 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

I wouldn't be surprised if the President gave the tablet to Presley to give to her dad because Xavier is the only person the President trusted. Seems like he knew that his life was in danger.


While plausible, why would she have hid it from her Dad this long and not given it him immediately when she was found out the President was dead? She doesn't go to the tablet until she finds out Billy is dead and she then goes to it immediately.

Another scenario, Sinatra tells the female agent to murder Cal after meeting with him that afternoon. The female agent commits the murder with the plan being to set Billy up to take the fall, knowing he would likely be the first to discover the body. Billy finds the body, figures Sinatra was setting him up to take the fall for the murder, so he grabs the tablet but he doesn't tell the female SS agent (who he still thinks is innocent) about the body.

The next morning, he has the female agent take his shift so that he isn't on site when the body is found. He had already grabbed the tablet, and was able to leave with it when Collins showed up to relieve him. He gave the tablet to the daughter at some point later when he realizes Sinatra will be after him.

If you recall, he didn't seem too surprised when Collins told him about the murder,
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
1905 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:33 pm to
Good theory!
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