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One thing I can't figure out about Sicario *Spoilers*

Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:39 pm
What's the point of going in the tunnel? Why couldn't Alejandro have crossed the border like normal, then gone after Manuel Diaz? What's the purpose of the whole diversion thing?

He could've crossed the border, gotten in any random police car, and gone after Manuel.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10195 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:54 pm to
The movie company had the tunnel rented out...

Really, I don't remember. Great movie though
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39176 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:55 pm to
He didn't know where the cartel boss lived.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:12 pm to
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He didn't know where the cartel boss lived.

So what? That's not the part that doesn't make sense. It's obvious why he needed Manuel Diaz (i.e., to take him to the boss). But why did he need to sneak in through the tunnel?

Couldn't he just as easily have crossed the border somewhere else, gotten in a random police car, pulled over Manuel Diaz, and had him take him to the cartel boss? I don't understand the point of the tunnel and the diversion.

Everything he did could've been done without the tunnel. Unless I'm missing something.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39176 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:16 pm to
He was just following the supply chain back to the source. Its easier than wandering around and hoping you run into someone who can lead you to the bosses' house.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:19 pm to
Maybe he knew the cartel had spotters looking for him as they figured he would come for revenge. The tunnel , under cover of darkness gave him the best chance to get to Diaz without the op being blown? You would figure boss man knew he was marked and would have had people positioned around every crossing point around Juarez looking for him. Only thing I can figure.
Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
Member since Nov 2010
35570 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

Maybe he knew the cartel had spotters looking for him as they figured he would come for revenge. The tunnel , under cover of darkness gave him the best chance to get to Diaz without the op being blown? You would figure boss man knew he was marked and would have had people positioned around every crossing point around Juarez looking for him. Only thing I can figure.
I think he was wanting to catch the ride from a cop that he knew was dirty since he was going to have to execute him before he got in the vehicle with diaz.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7999 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

So what? That's not the part that doesn't make sense. It's obvious why he needed Manuel Diaz (i.e., to take him to the boss). But why did he need to sneak in through the tunnel?

Couldn't he just as easily have crossed the border somewhere else, gotten in a random police car, pulled over Manuel Diaz, and had him take him to the cartel boss? I don't understand the point of the tunnel and the diversion.

Everything he did could've been done without the tunnel. Unless I'm missing something.


They probably didn't trust Mexican border patrol and needed to insert him without anyone seeing or reporting who was getting in there. As I understood it, his character was a well-known prosecutor/politician in northern Mexico. They had to get him in without anyone who could possibly report seeing him and quickly.
Posted by BoomerJam
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:05 am to
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As I understood it, his character was a well-known prosecutor/politician in northern Mexico.


I think this is partly true. With that said, I think he certainly had ties to the cartel in some capacity because Silvio said "Medellin" when he was confronted by Alejandro. One would think this would show some connection to the cartel, but we are ultimately left guessing.
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 12:10 am
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:31 am to
quote:

I think this is partly true. With that said, I think he certainly had ties to the cartel in some capacity because Silvio said "Medellin" when he was confronted by Alejandro. One would think this would show some conne


Yea, he was part of the Columbian cartel. They tell you. In the movie
Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
11225 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 2:06 am to
He didn't know where Diaz was. All he knew was that Diaz used the tunnel to smuggle drugs, so he used that lead to find him. I don't think he necessarily knew that he'd be riding with a dirty cop, that's just who happened to be there.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98157 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 3:58 am to
On the plus side, I've read that they pretty much nailed the border crossing shootout with regard to how operators would deal with that scenario.
Posted by Brood211
Member since Jun 2012
1414 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 4:25 am to
Lol... He was part of the rival Colombian cartel... The U.S. Used him to "keep the balance"
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17716 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:02 am to
quote:

He didn't know where Diaz was. All he knew was that Diaz used the tunnel to smuggle drugs, so he used that lead to find him. I don't think he necessarily knew that he'd be riding with a dirty cop, that's just who happened to be there.




Uh yea he did. They were tracking Diaz with the drone from his home in Arizona.

The best explanation is from the previous poster. He needed to cross without anyone knowing about it.

It was probably the best situation for him to get a cop car rather than be wandering around in the middle of the f-ing desert/being seen crossing in Juarez etc.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17716 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Lol... He was part of the rival Colombian cartel... The U.S. Used him to "keep the balance"


He wasn't necessarily "part" of it. He was hired by them, same as the CIA.

He's a wolf used by the US and Medillan to keep balance.

He was previously a prosecuter in Juarez trying to put away shite heads and we all know what happened to his family.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

He didn't know where Diaz was.

Not true. They knew where Diaz was from the satellite. That's how they guided Alejandro to Diaz on the road. The tunnel didn't help him find Diaz.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

The best explanation is from the previous poster. He needed to cross without anyone knowing about it.

It was probably the best situation for him to get a cop car rather than be wandering around in the middle of the f-ing desert/being seen crossing in Juarez etc.

This explanation makes the most (and only) sense.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66394 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 5:11 pm to
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:inb4carsonsdumbassopinion


Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
11225 posts
Posted on 1/28/16 at 5:11 pm to
True, true. Then the raid of the tunnel was a diversion to sneak him into the country. It's the only logical explanation with the whole CIA/FBI jurisdiction aspect of the movie.
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