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re: Official WandaVision Episode 5 Thread NO SPOILERS PAGE 1
Posted on 2/5/21 at 12:55 pm to Oates Mustache
Posted on 2/5/21 at 12:55 pm to Oates Mustache
I just think that If he was Peter, and she called him Pietro, he would have snapped out of the sitcom spell for a second like everyone else does.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 1:00 pm to RLDSC FAN
Yet another great episode.
Seeing Peter/Pietro was a complete surprise to me. My kids didn’t know why I was freaking out because they love the MCU but haven’t seen the X-men movies.
Another good commercial referencing a traumatic event in Wanda’s life. These seem to be going in chronological order. Lagos brand paper towel refers to the incident with crossbones in Civil War.
Even though Wanda is in control, it seems she may not have started this event knowingly. Agnes clearly is aware and probably manipulating Wanda.
Seeing Peter/Pietro was a complete surprise to me. My kids didn’t know why I was freaking out because they love the MCU but haven’t seen the X-men movies.
Another good commercial referencing a traumatic event in Wanda’s life. These seem to be going in chronological order. Lagos brand paper towel refers to the incident with crossbones in Civil War.
Even though Wanda is in control, it seems she may not have started this event knowingly. Agnes clearly is aware and probably manipulating Wanda.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 1:12 pm to lagallifrey
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Even though Wanda is in control, it seems she may not have started this event knowingly. Agnes clearly is aware and probably manipulating Wanda.
Reading about Agatha Harkness from the comics, she may be actually trying to help Wanda
Posted on 2/5/21 at 1:16 pm to stateofplay
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Reading about Agatha Harkness from the comics, she may be actually trying to help Wanda
Interesting. I haven’t looked her up.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 1:22 pm to lagallifrey
This is what i got from wikipedia
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Agatha has been depicted as one of the original witches from the Salem witch trials in Salem, Massachusetts. She somehow survived and later became a significant figure in Marvel continuity, protecting Franklin Richards as his nanny and later mentoring Wanda Maximoff (the Scarlet Witch) in real magic. Agatha was eventually killed by Wanda, who went insane. She also had a familiar named Ebony, a weird cat-like creature that could sense the presence of mystical beings.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 1:28 pm to lagallifrey
quote:she clearly didnt not conscientiously. i think she found out that SWORD had vision's body, was told they were doing tests on him, rescued him, and then was manipulated by whomever told her about vision (probably hydra) and then the next thing she knows, shes in westview. they even pretty much stated this in the first episode when she seemed just as confused on the minor details of her life with vision. like the anniversary, their wedding song, etc
Even though Wanda is in control, it seems she may not have started this event knowingly. Agnes clearly is aware and probably manipulating Wanda.
somewhere around the time when vision's boss starts choking and towards the end of the 2nd episode is when she realizes shes in control
and yes. agnes is clearly playing some knowing angle here and id assume dottie is as well
Posted on 2/5/21 at 1:39 pm to WestCoastAg
Jeez, so many questions, don't even know where to start.
Notice that Wanda was trying to roll credits on the show, while Vision wasn't buying it? Her way of trying to ignore his line of questions?
Agnes saying let's take it from the top, because Vision went off-script... so Agnes is fully aware of what's happening. And Agnes also knows that Wanda does, and that Agnes knows Wanda knows she knows...
That established- with the dead dog and bringing it back to life- Agnes asks Wanda with surprise- you can do that?
So, distilled down: Agnes is aware and involved, she knows this is a "show" as presented, but she's also aware of some deeper purpose (and is involved in that deeper purpose). She comes and helps, so she CAN DO stuff.
*And she doesn't know the full extent of Wanda's powers, even now.
Notice that Wanda was trying to roll credits on the show, while Vision wasn't buying it? Her way of trying to ignore his line of questions?
quote:2 things jump out at me-
and yes. agnes is clearly playing some knowing angle here and id assume dottie is as well
Agnes saying let's take it from the top, because Vision went off-script... so Agnes is fully aware of what's happening. And Agnes also knows that Wanda does, and that Agnes knows Wanda knows she knows...
That established- with the dead dog and bringing it back to life- Agnes asks Wanda with surprise- you can do that?
So, distilled down: Agnes is aware and involved, she knows this is a "show" as presented, but she's also aware of some deeper purpose (and is involved in that deeper purpose). She comes and helps, so she CAN DO stuff.
*And she doesn't know the full extent of Wanda's powers, even now.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 1:50 pm to Scoob
quote:i do wonder if her trying to deal with SWORD kinda invading westview is starting to have a draw on her powers. like when agnes was talking about taking the scene from the top, i kinda took it as if she was telling her "alright, do the thing where you reset everything and lets do it right this time" and then when she didnt bring sparky back, and then when she tried to just end the show when vision figured everything but couldnt
Notice that Wanda was trying to roll credits on the show, while Vision wasn't buying it? Her way of trying to ignore his line of questions?
Posted on 2/5/21 at 1:50 pm to WestCoastAg
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they even pretty much stated this in the first episode when she seemed just as confused on the minor details of her life with vision. like the anniversary, their wedding song, etc somewhere around the time when vision's boss starts choking and towards the end of the 2nd episode is when she realizes shes in control
I haven’t rewatched any yet but this sounds right. I thought at the time she was just playing along for the sake of the sitcom episode.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 1:58 pm to lagallifrey
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Another good commercial referencing a traumatic event in Wanda’s life. These seem to be going in chronological order. Lagos brand paper towel refers to the incident with crossbones in Civil War.
Yep. The slogan was, "For when you make a mess, but didn't mean to."
Referring to her killing all those people in the building.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:09 pm to swagsurfin7
I feel like the Agnes chick is the bad guy in this.
When Vision snapped that guy out of the virtual reality, he was saying how "she is in my head" and never mentioned Wanda by name. Then when Vision confronted Wanda, she said she wasn't controlling everything and didn't know what was going on.
Also, when Wanda left Westview to face SWORD, why was her accent back?
When Vision snapped that guy out of the virtual reality, he was saying how "she is in my head" and never mentioned Wanda by name. Then when Vision confronted Wanda, she said she wasn't controlling everything and didn't know what was going on.
Also, when Wanda left Westview to face SWORD, why was her accent back?
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:30 pm to Broski
With the way Evan Peters acted that scene I don’t know how you can say that isn’t some version of his Quicksilver
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:35 pm to Broski
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Also, when Wanda left Westview to face SWORD, why was her accent back?
i took it as thats her normal voice. And she was pissed and it was coming out more.
Here in the sitcom world she is "living the american dream" and is more "americanized?" i dunno thats how my brain took it at least.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:37 pm to Broski
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Also, when Wanda left Westview to face SWORD, why was her accent back?
Her accent seems to be back at the end of Endgame to, at least in the final battle part. I don't remember when she was talking to Hawkeye. I've always wondered why her accent was back, maybe like someone else said it comes out when she's pissed.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:45 pm to CP3forMVP
Maybe she was just taking accent classes between Ultron and Infinity War and it's slipping in and out now.
Also, the amount of people online who think they actually just recast the MCU Quicksilver is wild. Like they don't get the significance of it being Evan Peters there instead.
Also, the amount of people online who think they actually just recast the MCU Quicksilver is wild. Like they don't get the significance of it being Evan Peters there instead.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:48 pm to UMRealist
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Maybe she was just taking accent classes between Ultron and Infinity War and it's slipping in and out now.
Also, the amount of people online who think they actually just recast the MCU Quicksilver is wild. Like they don't get the significance of it being Evan Peters there instead.
My wife had no idea even though she has seen all the X-Men movies and loves Evan Peters in AHS lol
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:00 pm to CP3forMVP
I think Wanda's "in control", but like the show intro song says- we're making this up as we we go
She's powering it and directing the big picture, but she's not in control of everything, and she isn't really sure what she's doing...
didn't know there would be twins.
Couldn't stop the twins from crying.
couldn't (or wouldn't?) rewind Vision this episode... she did that a couple episodes ago, but this time when Agnes suggested it, she turned away. And later, when Vision said she can't control him like the others, she said "oh yeah?" and rolled credits, but it didn't work.
Agnes looked genuinely shocked about Wanda 'fixing death' You can do that?
Vision is a machine, that wasn't a corpse, it was an android body they reassembled and rebooted. Thanos yanked the power supply, but Wanda has replaced that and reinstalled the OS... hence he's "Vision" but doesn't have memory of before the reboot. That's because he's a fresh build, and not all the old stuff got reloaded. But the OS is still Jarvis-based, so the internet stuff (getting the emails?) is part of his design. And there's enough 'other' in the mix to push him to full sentience (let's admit, Jarvis was pretty much sentient by the time he was blocking Ultron, prior to being loaded into the Vision body).
Actual death, as discussed with the dog, is a different concept. Again, Agnes, who knows the script, didn't know about that, nor does Wanda... but the kids are outside her control. They asked about her brother.
Now- weirdness increasing. Quicksilver was her brother, that's Quicksilver. Simple math to do deep equation:
Quicksilver= 5.
1+4= 5
2+3= 5
and so on.
Pietro, the guy who got shot in AOU, is 1+4= Quicksilver.
This dude is 2+3= Quicksilver. Not the same, but the same.
Deeper dig- if that's really X-Men Quicksilver, then it goes to reason X-Men exist somwhere (another universe); and if anyone could pick up on the sudden weirdness in that universe, Charles Xavier would. Maybe Jean Grey in more advanced form, too.
She's powering it and directing the big picture, but she's not in control of everything, and she isn't really sure what she's doing...
didn't know there would be twins.
Couldn't stop the twins from crying.
couldn't (or wouldn't?) rewind Vision this episode... she did that a couple episodes ago, but this time when Agnes suggested it, she turned away. And later, when Vision said she can't control him like the others, she said "oh yeah?" and rolled credits, but it didn't work.
Agnes looked genuinely shocked about Wanda 'fixing death' You can do that?
Vision is a machine, that wasn't a corpse, it was an android body they reassembled and rebooted. Thanos yanked the power supply, but Wanda has replaced that and reinstalled the OS... hence he's "Vision" but doesn't have memory of before the reboot. That's because he's a fresh build, and not all the old stuff got reloaded. But the OS is still Jarvis-based, so the internet stuff (getting the emails?) is part of his design. And there's enough 'other' in the mix to push him to full sentience (let's admit, Jarvis was pretty much sentient by the time he was blocking Ultron, prior to being loaded into the Vision body).
Actual death, as discussed with the dog, is a different concept. Again, Agnes, who knows the script, didn't know about that, nor does Wanda... but the kids are outside her control. They asked about her brother.
Now- weirdness increasing. Quicksilver was her brother, that's Quicksilver. Simple math to do deep equation:
Quicksilver= 5.
1+4= 5
2+3= 5
and so on.
Pietro, the guy who got shot in AOU, is 1+4= Quicksilver.
This dude is 2+3= Quicksilver. Not the same, but the same.
Deeper dig- if that's really X-Men Quicksilver, then it goes to reason X-Men exist somwhere (another universe); and if anyone could pick up on the sudden weirdness in that universe, Charles Xavier would. Maybe Jean Grey in more advanced form, too.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:37 pm to CP3forMVP
Elizabeth Olsen is a pretty lady.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:43 pm to PawnMaster
Starting to wonder if anything Marvel puts out will ever be criticized
You already have enough characters to work with, I can't imagine how crazy this is going to get when they add the other spidermans to the mix along with past villains
You already have enough characters to work with, I can't imagine how crazy this is going to get when they add the other spidermans to the mix along with past villains
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:02 pm to nicholastiger
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Starting to wonder if anything Marvel puts out will ever be criticized
Not sure where you get this idea. There have already been a number of movies worth criticizing. Iron man 2 is a fun action movie, but certainly a step down from the first. Iron Man 3 had a lot of issues, particularly with the reveal of Trevor. Thor 1 is ok, 2 is bad. I know people like it but personally I really hate GOTG 2. It is the worst MCU film. Much of the marvel Netflix series are terrible outside Daredevil. Captain Marvel was criticized, but I thought it was fine.
That said, I’m loving Wandavision so far. I had high expectations and it has surpassed them to this point.
I’m more skeptical of some of the future projects. I’ll probably skip Eternals from what I’ve heard so far.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 4:05 pm
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