re: OFFICIAL "The Wire" M/TV Board rewatch thread (current discussion starts ~p. 53)

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What scene? I watched last week but for some reason I have no idea what you're talking about...

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Where Dee, Wallace, and Bodie are talking about who created the McNugget and the hoppers say the inventor is basically set for life but Dee tells them that McDonalds is profiting off of it not the original inventor. If my memory serves me right.

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ee tells them that McDonalds is profiting off of it not the original inventor. If my memory serves me right.

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Correct, and Dee also says the inventor is locked up in a basement.

Also lmao when Bubz gave them the fake money, and they were talking about Hamilton being a POTUS.

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He was just too smart for the game, if that makes sense

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I agree Dee was a smart kid. I just dont think his heart was in the game.

I know they got me using stuff like he was a citizen, working man

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they were talking about Hamilton being a POTUS.

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Wallace was right (before he was the Human Torch OR Apollo's son.)

Just saw this thread. Im actually in Season 4 of a rewatch now. Will be fun to follow along in here though.

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Just saw this thread. Im actually in Season 4 of a rewatch now. Will be fun to follow along in here though.

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I'm on S2,E9. I can't watch at the snails pace this thread is moving.

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I'm on S2,E9. I can't watch at the snails pace this thread is moving.

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OWSA - admit it - Season 2 - while I'll admit not exactly what I was expecting, either - has won you over by now, right?

Okay, frick..finally.



The Target

Awesome opening scene. "Why'd you let him play then?" "This is America, man." Sets a great tone for the series.

"You can't call it a war...wars end." Rewatching it's cool to see little commentsand conversations like these that really sum up the whole show. It's things that sort of went over my head the first time I watched it.

It's hilarious watching them bang away on typewriters.





As dated as this show is with the pagers and typewriters and everything, it still holds up really well.

Also forgot just how vulgar the show is. Every other word is frick or dick or the N word.

Stringer bossing shite up from day one with the "frick you, detective" picture in court. I fricking love me some Stringer Bell. True playa.

BUBBLES!!



I forgot that Johnny getting his arse kicked for the fake money was what got Bubbz helping the cops originally.

And man, I've missed the jazzy outro of the episodes. This rewatch is gonna be fun as hell..




The Detail

De'Angelo is showing pussy signs already, and we're only a couple episodes in. Dude shot some dude in cold blood, but now feels all terrible about it and folds like a wet blanket when pressed on anything. It wasn't shite for McNulty and Bunk to break him down in that interrogation room. That took what, all of two minutes?

And Avon already knows what's up, and is handling his business with D.

One thing that stands out to me is how orchestrated and organized Avon and company are. It's cool to notice that the second time around. And I really like Wood Harris too..he's perfect for this role.

I thought D was Avon's cousin, but apparently it's his nephew..??



Chicken McNugget scene was another awesome theme moment. These first episodes are chock full of that shite.





I can only imagine what would happen if cops shook someone down like Herc, Carv, and Prez did at the terrace. That was pretty fricked up. And why did they not just hop in the fricking car and leave? Would've taken like five seconds to do that, but instead they took cover, started shooting into apartments, and laid down under the car.

So McNulty went to the judge because he wanted to get a wire set up and running on the Barksdale organization, right? So when everybody is getting pissed at him for talking to the judge, he's pretending to be sorry...right? Once he saw that awesome surveilance setup in episode one, he wanted that shite for himself for Avon and them...so that sort of set his plan in motion. I think that's correct, but I got to thinking about it last night and couldn't remember if he did it all on purpose or if it happened as a byproduct of him talking to the judge.

That shite Prez pulled was hella fricked up. And it's awesome how easily Rawls stepped in for Prez and covered his arse. Also sort of scary because you know shite like that happens all the damn time IRL.

"The game is rigged." Yup, sure is.. And IIRC, we see/hear that again later in the series.

Yeah, I had read that somewhere before. I feel like him not even getting nominated as a supporting actor for his work in the series was criminal though. It's like Leo not getting enough credit for What's Eating Gilbert Grape. "Sorry, you played the mentally challenged kid a little too well for us to notice". I mean shite.

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So McNulty went to the judge because he wanted to get a wire set up and running on the Barksdale organization, right? So when everybody is getting pissed at him for talking to the judge, he's pretending to be sorry...right? Once he saw that awesome surveilance setup in episode one, he wanted that shite for himself for Avon and them...so that sort of set his plan in motion. I think that's correct, but I got to thinking about it last night and couldn't remember if he did it all on purpose or if it happened as a byproduct of him talking to the judge.

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I'll say this about McNulty, for as much of a shitbag human being as he can be, I think deep down he legitimately wants to shut down Avon and Stringer for the shite that they're getting away with and seeing the murdered witness in Ep 2 triggers that. Does it feed his ego that if it happens he could get an ego boost from it? Sure. Is he like a spoiled arse kid in that he doesn't care who he drags through the shite to make it happen? Sure. And does it help that he might get to play with some cool shite like FBI quality surveillance in the meantime? Absolutely. But the core of his motivation is to take down Avon and Stringer early on.

As to why he goes back to the Judge, I think it's simply that he knows he can get shite moving a lot faster by jumping chain of command even if it pisses EVERYONE off and possibly results in consequences for him. He only sees what he wants to be the end game, taking down Avon and Stringer. frick everything and everyone else.

And let's face it, if you've ever worked in government at any level it is absolutely fricking ridiculous the level of "chain of command" bullshite you have to wade to get where you want to get going, even on the small shite. I can absolutely relate to that.