re: Official Star Wars Episode 9 Discussion SPOILERS thread

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It’s ok. You weren’t paying attention

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There are decades of lore. Did you pay attention to any of that?

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You didn't watch the movie, did you?

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I did. That is the problem lol.

Overall decent watch. Definitely better than The Last Jedi. Rey being a Palpatine, and the Emperor's reintroduction after Snoke was unceremoniously dumped and how it explains his existence all seems forced. Basically how it caps the new trilogy seems a little unnatural and isn't cohesive. As a standalone I think it would have been really good if it didn't give the feeling like the arc of the new trilogy now just feels poorly thought through, like they didn't have a clear vision of what they wanted.

I would be very interested to get the true behind the scenes story of what happened with the development and changes to the overarching plan for the arc of the trilogy and how things changed based on reception and the wills of the individual decision makers. Will never have true access to that though.

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You forget she took a bunch of Luke's ancient Jedi books. I would imagine some of it was covered in there.

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Wait, so now it wasn’t her connection to the dark side, which she had never gone down before, it was the Jedi manuals that gave her these abilities. These abilities that have never existed before? Abilities Luke, Yoda, and others knew about, but never decided to do?

You keep telling yourself that, but twisting my words won't win the argument or prove you correct.

I'm glad you enjoyed the movie though.

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It's a fantasy series with magical powers. They can do anything they want without particular explanation of the logic because that's what magic is. It isn't logical.

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When said magical powers contradict a massive story line from a previous film in the saga, it becomes a problem. That's what happened in Rise of Skywalker.

If the ability to heal and bring people back to life has always been there, why haven't more powerful Jedi/Sith manage to wield that power until now?

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These sorts of details don't really matter. It's a fantasy series with magical powers. They can do anything they want without particular explanation of the logic because that's what magic is. It isn't logical. There are plenty of things to pick on, but when you pick on the magical powers not being what you like you show you're just looking for something to bitch about.

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That is not true. While a writer can do whatever they want, all the top fantasy stories that last through the times live within a set of rules.

There is a reason the all time great fantasies follow this principle.

It is OK to have new abilities, but you dont create them as a writer to get out of a jam. That is what this movie did IMO.

Kylo had more depth as a character IMO than Rey.

It is just not well thought out.

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These sorts of details don't really matter. It's a fantasy series with magical powers. They can do anything they want without particular explanation of the logic because that's what magic is. It isn't logical. There are plenty of things to pick on, but when you pick on the magical powers not being what you like you show you're just looking for something to bitch about

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I’ve picked on many, many things in this thread. This was Just one in particular that got responded to. This is just another example of poor writing in this film.
It’s also an ability that negates the rest of Star Wars lore. The ability to resurrect or he’s
Somebody from mortal wounds is a pretty big cop out writing wise, pure and simple.

It negates the entire Anakin story arc. Then we have two explanations, that Rey can do it because she learned it in Jedi manuals or because of her connection to the Dark Side. Well that’s not a thing. Star Wars has shown time and time again that just because you are related to the dark side, it doesn’t mean you are a Sith or anything. You may possess the traits that led your lineage down that path, but it is always the choices the individual makes. The idea that just because you are related to someone, you all of a sudden have the ability to do dark side force abilities, while being completely on the light side, is absurd.

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Luke was the son of Vader.

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Luke was the son of Anakin.

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The baby in the Mandalorian doesn’t have a connection to the dark side. 

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Says who?

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Luke was the son of Anakin.

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Cool, so still a connection to the dark side. Glad we can agree.