- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Official "Inception" Thread (***SPOILERS***)
Posted on 7/18/10 at 9:53 pm to DanglingFury
Posted on 7/18/10 at 9:53 pm to DanglingFury
quote:
Did anything in particular push it over the top for you after repeated viewings...in terms of "reality" vs. "dream?"
i'm goin to see it for the 2nd time tomorrow. ill let you know.
1
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:20 pm to Dan In Real Life
quote:
Did anything in particular push it over the top for you after repeated viewings...in terms of "reality" vs. "dream?"
Miles (Michael Caine's character)
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:21 pm to LSUStjames
quote:This is big IMO.
Dom never has his wedding ring on when in reality, always has it on in the dreams. At the end he does not have it on.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:24 pm to TexasTigah
Dom could still be in a dream state and not have the ring on as his own projection of getting over and moving past Mal's death.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:51 pm to horsesandbulls
quote:
i found the movie very deep and complex, yet easy enough to follow and very intriguing.
perfect summary
frickING FALL OVER YOU STUPID TOP
Posted on 7/19/10 at 12:57 am to DBG
Just saw this. Great movie. It's gonna take a few days to process it all, then I'm gonna see it again soon. Some interesting theories here, I don't think anyone is 100% correct, probably a mixture of them all.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:02 am to TexasTigah
Does anyone know the purpose of Eames planting the charges on the hospital?
And don't say it was a kick - kicks are initiated at the level to which the dreamer is brought (ie, being kicked on level 2 brings you to level 2).
Plus, right after Fisher died, but before Ariadne suggested they go after him in limbo, Dom said, "Let's plant the charges and wait for the kick."
What was the point of the charges?
And don't say it was a kick - kicks are initiated at the level to which the dreamer is brought (ie, being kicked on level 2 brings you to level 2).
Plus, right after Fisher died, but before Ariadne suggested they go after him in limbo, Dom said, "Let's plant the charges and wait for the kick."
What was the point of the charges?
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:05 am to Cs
To blow up the snow fortress. The explosive jolt would kick them back to the hotel level where Arthur propelled the elevator with explosives so that could create a kick to the falling van.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:05 am to Geauxldineye
quote:
Dom could still be in a dream state and not have the ring on as his own projection of getting over and moving past Mal's death.
I don't think so. When he washed up on the shore of his sub-conscience after the death of the projection of Mal he still had his wedding ring on. He also had it on when he was taken to see the older version of Saito. The ring was no longer present in the scenes that followed.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:08 am to RollTide1987
right, after he rescued Saito, the "job" was done. Dom's conscious allowed himself to be free of the shade of Mal, and to move forward with his "life". Not having the ring on in the final scene plays to this theory.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:15 am to Cs
quote:
And don't say it was a kick - kicks are initiated at the level to which the dreamer is brought
Kicks worked two ways I think. For instance in a real dream you might wake just before a monster grabs you, which is a kick initiated in the dream. But you might also roll off the bed, imagine falling off a cliff, and wake when you land, which is a kick initiated in reality (or a level back).
The kicks are confusing though. For instance, does a character have to be killed to be kicked? You would think getting hit by a train in a car might snap you back a level. But it didn't. So why would they think that crashing off the bridge (the planned first kick which didn't kick) would work.
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 1:21 am
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:23 am to smokeswithwolves
quote:
Kicks worked two ways I think. For instance in a real dream you might wake just before a monster grabs you, which is a kick initiated in the dream. But you might also roll off the bed, imagine falling off a cliff, and wake when you land, which is a kick initiated in reality (or a level back).
The film firmly establishes that kicks are initialized at the level to which the dreamer is brought. Early in the film, Nash gave Dom the kick (pushed his chair back) to get him out of level 2.
And, when they are testing the compound in the workshop in the middle of the film, Yusuf pushes Arthur over in the chair, and once he has fallen about halfway, you see Arthur's eyes open, with him reaching out, meaning he was just "pulled" out of the dream.
If you can "kick" yourself up a level, the film certainly made no mention of it prior to the climax.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:25 am to Geauxldineye
quote:
right, after he rescued Saito, the "job" was done. Dom's conscious allowed himself to be free of the shade of Mal, and to move forward with his "life". Not having the ring on in the final scene plays to this theory.
They are too many signs that point to the ending was reality.
These are facts:
1. Cobb remembered how he got to the house, if it was a dream, he would have just appeared there.
2. the kids were older than they were in his dreams.
3. The ring like the poster just stated.
4. The top wobbles, and you can hear a noise when it fades to black, that is the top falling over.
Also you can add to the fact that the whole entire character of Cobb's nature was to GET OUT OF THE DREAM WORLD AND BACK TO REALITY.
These are facts:
1. Starting with him and Mal that he wants to get out of Limbo and back to reality.
2. He won't look at his kids in the dream world because he knows they aren't real and will just encourage him to stay.
3. He's doing the whole job to get back to his real kids.
4. He lets go of Mal because she isn't real and a shade of his real wife.
5. During the entire movie its against his entire character to accept this fake dream world reality.
So at the end he accepts the fake kids and fake reality? In my opinion HELLZ NO.
The wedding ring provides additional and definitive proof. Why did Nolan not just have Cobb where the ring in both worlds? Nolan intentionally defined which world Cobb was in by the wedding ring.
Even in the scene where Cobb visits Mal at the hotel where she jumps Cobb still isn't wearing the wedding ring even though they ARE STILL MARRIED? Why is that? It's because he's in the real world and its reality! The ending with his kids he still doesn't have the ring because he's in the real world and the ending is real!
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 1:27 am
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:25 am to smokeswithwolves
quote:
The kicks are confusing though. For instance, does a character have to be killed to be kicked? You would think getting hit by a train in a car might snap you back a level. But it didn't. So why would they think that crashing off the bridge (the planned first kick which didn't kick) would work.
Under the heavy sedation, if they died in the normal dream, they would be sent to limbo.
Killing yourself in limbo wakes you up completely, or sends you a level higher.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:27 am to Cs
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:31 am to Cs
quote:
Does anyone know the purpose of Eames planting the charges on the hospital?
Read this in another thread.
He planted them on the supports to create a freefall effect.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:33 am to Geauxldineye
quote:
Arthur is everything Dom wishes he could be but can't because he has so many ghosts following him around. He gets to kiss the girl, save the day
I stopped reading when I hit this sentence.
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:41 am to Cs
quote:
I stopped reading when I hit this sentence.
What is off about that analysis?
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:47 am to Geauxldineye
The fact that he admits it's a really crazy theory, and the fact he tries to support that theory by forcibly modeling Arhtur into the "Hero" archetype.
Eames and Yusuf are more of a hero than Arhtur. Hell, Eames is actually the hero of the entire operation, on all 3 levels.
Eames and Yusuf are more of a hero than Arhtur. Hell, Eames is actually the hero of the entire operation, on all 3 levels.
This post was edited on 7/19/10 at 1:47 am
Posted on 7/19/10 at 1:52 am to Cs
quote:
The fact that he admits it's a really crazy theory, and the fact he tries to support that theory by forcibly modeling Arhtur into the "Hero" archetype.
Eames and Yusuf are more of a hero than Arhtur. Hell, Eames is actually the hero of the entire operation, on all 3 levels.
I agree. Nolan wouldn't have put the scene of Arthur needing Eames help to shoot the guy off the roof if this was the case. And the kiss wasn't a "save the day" type kiss, he just tricked her, which I wouldn't say is "hero" quality.
Page 11 of 39
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News