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re: Official history Channel Hatfield's & McCoy's mini series thread

Posted on 5/30/12 at 8:56 am to
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 8:56 am to
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this became an outright war was when the McCoy boys murdered Ellison Hatfield without provocation.


agreed, they started the fight got an arse whipping and turned to knives and guns.
Posted by BamaFanInTigerland
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 8:59 am to
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Really? I feel that outside of Jim Vance Hatfield, who is truly psychotic, the escalation to violence has almost been entirely on the McCoy side. The Hatfields are mean bastards, but the McCoys are stupid, brutish thugs.

As far as the series is concerned, the true triggering event when this became an outright war was when the McCoy boys murdered Ellison Hatfield without provocation. Before then, it was two families who hated each other – that’s when it became a “shooting war”.


Pretty much agree with all this. So glad that the McCoy boys got what was coming to them.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:07 am to
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So glad that the McCoy boys got what was coming to them


that was a frickin brutal scene.
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:09 am to
If the Lawyer doesn't die tonight I am going to PISSED. He sucks, and has caused a lot of this trouble.

Also, am I mistaken in thinking that the three McCoy boys would have been hanged if they had been turned over to KY anyway?

Or is the assumption that the only jury to be found in the area would have been all McCoy's so they'd get off?
Posted by Lsuwannabe
Wesson
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:11 am to
Tom Berringer makes this movie. Even I want to go kick this POS arse. He needs to win a award or something for this roll
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:13 am to
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Milk eye is close to getting his.
Actually "Cap" lives until 1930. He kills a bunch of McCoys. I'm not sure how much farther in time the mini-series will take us, but this gets going again in the 1890's IIRC.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:33 am to
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Actually "Cap" lives until 1930. He kills a bunch of McCoys. I'm not sure how much farther in time the mini-series will take us, but this gets going again in the 1890's IIRC.


I thought it ends in 1891 (according to wikipedia).
Posted by LSUtigersarefun
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:33 am to
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Actually "Cap" lives until 1930. He kills a bunch of McCoys. I'm not sure how much farther in time the mini-series will take us, but this gets going again in the 1890's IIRC.


Everything ends about 1890 if my memory is correct.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:34 am to
Anyone know when they'll air a replay of part 3? I'm interested to see it but I simply can't bring myself to skip the USA-Brazil game tonight.
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:35 am to
I'm sure they will replay it plenty.

I haven't researched it since the series came out. For some reason I thought the fued fired up again later for a few years.
Posted by Baloo
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:38 am to
1888 is when the excrement hits the air conditioning. I do like how Cap has become this acolyte of Jim Vance, though I do think the series is shifting responsibility from Devil Anse to Jim Vance. Come on, the guy's name was Devil Anse. He wasn't a peaceable guy, reluctantly drawn into the feud.
Posted by LSUtigersarefun
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:40 am to
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If the Lawyer doesn't die tonight I am going to PISSED. He sucks, and has caused a lot of this trouble.

Also, am I mistaken in thinking that the three McCoy boys would have been hanged if they had been turned over to KY anyway?

Or is the assumption that the only jury to be found in the area would have been all McCoy's so they'd get off?


I wonder how much of the public's opinion is being swayed by Kevin Costner's acting?
In history the McCoy's are owned by the Hatfield's. The Union Soldier who was a McCoy was not looked highly upon by anyone including the McCoy's. It appears that the McCoy's are like the kid brother who gets beat up and then just comes back for more.
Posted by alajones
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 9:57 am to
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the guy's name was Devil Anse.
I'm not sure how much of that Civil War stuff is true and how much is just made up. I'm pretty sure he earned that name in the War though.

quote:

1888 is when the excrement hits the air conditioning.
Hard to believe it gets worse. We are still in 1881 correct? I know Devil makes it out alive and lives pretty much in peace the last decade or so of his life. I'm trying hard to resist the urge to look up a lot of stuff so as not to spoil some of the show.
This post was edited on 5/30/12 at 9:59 am
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 10:51 am to
Just asking.. anyone think the Mccoy girl Jonesy married last night married him to spy or to kill him?
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 11:01 am to
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Just asking.. anyone think the Mccoy girl Jonesy married last night married him to spy or to kill him?


Based on what she was saying at the Funeral I think its clear the film makers wanted us to at least entertain the idea.

And she said to leave him alone "for now" when she was talking to Bad Frank.
Posted by GA Tiger
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 11:07 am to
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And she said to leave him alone "for now" when she was talking to Bad Frank.


Yeah

Jonesy reminds me of Samson in the Bible... has a weakness for women.. even when he ought to know better.
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
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3502 posts
Posted on 5/30/12 at 11:09 am to
A thread I've noticed is.. these folks defend their own even when their own are wrong.

ie... Nancy McCoy takes her brother in even though he's killed someone. Then, she defends him.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 11:39 am to
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Just asking.. anyone think the Mccoy girl Jonesy married last night married him to spy or to kill him?


Nancy married Jonsey for ulterior motives, to plot the demise of Jim Vance. Which, has now poured more gas on her revenge by killing her brother.
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Posted on 5/30/12 at 11:42 am to
quote:

We are still in 1881 correct?


1886 now
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
3502 posts
Posted on 5/30/12 at 11:54 am to
When did the Mccoy boy begin to work for the Hatfields? He was supposedly working under a cover.
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