re: Official Alien: Covenant SPOILER Thread

It was meh. Danny McBride ruined it

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Although you have a point with them intercepting the signal from that planet

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Could be wrong, but I believe I remember Walter saying Tennessee picked up the transmission only because he was so far away from the body of the ship which had certain communications blocked.

I believe Walter willl return in the next movie, not only because we don't "see" the ending of their fight but a few prior scenes. Keep the drawn out scene of David teaching Walter to play the flute in mind.

After Shaw is shown on the table with her insides dissected (this is how David learns to create an egg / reproducing organism, I believe. Think back to Prometheus' cesarean scene where David says she has excellent survival instincts also). David goes to the egg chamber and creates life by infecting a crew member with a classic Xeno.

We then see David playing the flute in a eulogy to Shaw to show his appreciation for her giving him the ability to create life. He's playing the exact song that powers up the ship in Prometheus and Walter hears the notes.

They're on the engineer's homeworld, so presumably there will be thousands of ships for Walter to commandeer.

Where are they going, you ask? Origae 6 -- is it LV426 from the original? I'm not sure yet. We do know the original ship housed a cargo hold full of intact eggs. David must've loaded an Engineer ship with these eggs (but why is an Enginner / space jockey in the pilot seat?).

Also for anyone interested, this is an awesome breakdown of Prometheus. I'm still not sold 100% on his interpretation of the black goo but it explains some of the ideas running through the movie--creator of life vs destroyer of life and killing your maker:

Prometheus Unbound

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The incident at the beginning of the movie after the solar sails deployed. There was a pulse that fried some of the ships systems. They then find the signal that causes them to go the planet David was on.

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The pulse thing was just a random event.

David had been on the Engineer's planet for 10 years and was stranded. He had killed every living animal on the planet and needed to get off to continue experimenting. He turned on the beacon to play the hologram of Shaw singing knowing if any humans ever picked it up they would be curious and check out where it originated from, giving him a chance to escape from the planet. When Tennessee got far enough away from the Covenant he was able to pick up bits of the transmission from the beacon.

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I can't say you're wrong, because we have no idea where the next movie will go, but it wouldn't really make sense for there to be more ships in the story. If there were other ships that could be commandeered, David already would have done that and left the dead planet since we know he could operate them. David was stranded on the planet, that was why he turned on the beacon.

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Good point. I hadn't thought of the fact that David was actively trying to get off the planet--but maybe Walter, being more efficient, would be able to repair the ship from LV223 which we see on the side of the mountain. Speculation of course but interested to find out

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The pulse thing was just a random event.

David had been on the Engineer's planet for 10 years and was stranded. He had killed every living animal on the planet and needed to get off to continue experimenting. He turned on the beacon to play the hologram of Shaw singing knowing if any humans ever picked it up they would be curious and check out where it originated from, giving him a chance to escape from the planet. When Tennessee got far enough away from the Covenant he was able to pick up bits of the transmission from the beacon.

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I can believe pulse was a random event. It was the car breakdown in the beginning of a humor movie.

If this was the Engineer home world shouldn't there be more ships? David was so keen on experimentation why didn't leave? Also how did he know the landing party was there? Was there a disturbance in the Force ? I imagine the crashed ship may have how alerted him when it activated. I just remembered that had to be the ship Shaw came to the planet on. I still don't understand how it crashed when it docked and released all those eggs.

Write up from a buddy of mine on Facebook. Wanted to share because I agree:

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The ending to Alien: Covenant was not a twist. SEMI-SPOILER. ********************************

Tried and true storytelling method: the audience knows what is going to happen, but the characters do not. Frank Herbert's Dune is my favorite example of this: the author told us from the very start who the traitor was. Emotion is generated through your investment in the characters. We see their doom, and how it happens. The characters have a chance to avoid this doom, which is where the audience comes into play.

Real spoiler if you have watched the film: Ridley Scott showed us early on that Walter can repair his flesh. The only reason why this moment is crucial to the story is because Daniels had an opportunity to realize that Walter was an imposter on the ship. David is stapling his flesh together, and Daniels helps. This is significant. We want Daniels to realize that it is not Walter, but David. The audience holds out desperate hope that we are wrong, because we like Walter.

David gives us the sly smile when he is on the bridge... we know then, in our hearts, that it is not Walter. Even though he helps T and Daniels, we know it is David but we do not want it to be.

And then when David ushers them into cryo sleep, we are still hopeful... and then we have the moment with Daniels because she felt as if she was safe.

This is great storytelling, in my opinion. I love the progression between the two stories. I love the themes. I love that we have a strong villain who is portrayed beautifully by Fassbender.

I posted this because I kept seeing people were upset that the ending was predictable. Yes. It was. It was not supposed to be a twist.

Loved the movie. Loved it.

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I can't believe that anyone would think that the audience wasn't supposed to be in on the switch.

Movie wasn't very good, maybe 3/10. Almost similar rating as Alien 3. Have to agree with CptRusty with most of those points.

The black goo canisters were on the ship from LV223, (Prometheus).. we never saw eggs on that ship. He wiped out the engineers by unleashing the canisters, not eggs. There were eggs on the ship on LV426 (Alien) but we don't how they got there yet