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re: OFFICIAL - The Dark Knight Rises Discussion Thread - *SPOILERS*
Posted on 8/2/12 at 7:58 pm to LakeViewLSU
Posted on 8/2/12 at 7:58 pm to LakeViewLSU
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They went out of the way to show it during the love scene with Bruce Wayne. It looked like a boomerang .
It closely resembles the symbol that Ra's al Ghul was going to brand Bruce Wayne with in Batman Begins. I believe it is the symbol of the League of Shadows.
This post was edited on 8/2/12 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 8/2/12 at 8:08 pm to RollTide1987
Ok, I figured it was something like that .It's been awhile since I've seen BMB
Posted on 8/2/12 at 10:56 pm to LakeViewLSU
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What is the significance of the brand mark on Tahlia's back? They went out of the way to show it during the love scene with Bruce Wayne. It looked like a boomerang .
I think it was also more of a literary device than anything else (she came from nothing and a scar shows her imperfections) - as well as a branding that Bruce was oblivious to of course.
As far as people talking about the ending being a dream, is this freaking Inception or something?
I really have no clue on why some still believe Alfred "imagined/dreamed" of seeing Bruce at the cafe with Selina. No where in the film is this even suggested. The only time there is a hallucination is when Bruce see's Ra's.
All the evidence in the film points to Bruce living and moving on from Batman with Selina. This theory is just as silly as people claiming Harvey Dent was still alive at the end of TDK. Period.
This post was edited on 8/2/12 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 8/3/12 at 4:07 pm to theunknownknight
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most of the posters laughed when I wrote this and then Freauxzen says virtually the same things and now they are like "yeeeah.....I can see that....maybe"
Welcome to the M/TV Board.
Think about it...you think people are going to pick through an 85 page thread post by post? I admit I go through and read what only certain posters say and look for the long posts because I know they have thought about what they said.
I just saw this movie. Liked it...mulling it over.
Confused on what happened to Bane after Tate revealed who she was.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 5:18 pm to Pectus
I read a couple dozen pages of the thread and then called off the dogs. It is always funny to see how different the responses to points raised by poster A and poster B can be (when one person is generally liked and the other is not).
Anyway, I know people who loved this film are upset by the criticism it has received from e-critics on this board (FWIW these are generally people who mostly liked the movie but disliked certain aspects of the movie)... I would however disagree with their contention that all of the complaints you see being emphasized are "nit-picking"
It requires a good bit of suspension of disbelief for people to accept the batman injuries and his recovery as described, his climb out of the pit as anything other than metaphor, the post-occupation Gotham as feeling right, or the magical escape by Batman at the end of the film (he must have had a worm hole generator in his utility belt). If you loved the movie in its entirety then good for you but when a lot of people complain about some of the same elements I think it tells you that those Nolan devices (to advance the plot etc) were just incompletely successful because people were brought out of the movie experience when they saw these things.
Don't get me wrong. I still enjoyed the movie and despite its flaws I would have loved the movie as a whole if they hadn't used the "batman really escaped" ending. I just found it to be a good effort rather than reaching the expectations that I had of the film.
Anyway, I know people who loved this film are upset by the criticism it has received from e-critics on this board (FWIW these are generally people who mostly liked the movie but disliked certain aspects of the movie)... I would however disagree with their contention that all of the complaints you see being emphasized are "nit-picking"
It requires a good bit of suspension of disbelief for people to accept the batman injuries and his recovery as described, his climb out of the pit as anything other than metaphor, the post-occupation Gotham as feeling right, or the magical escape by Batman at the end of the film (he must have had a worm hole generator in his utility belt). If you loved the movie in its entirety then good for you but when a lot of people complain about some of the same elements I think it tells you that those Nolan devices (to advance the plot etc) were just incompletely successful because people were brought out of the movie experience when they saw these things.
Don't get me wrong. I still enjoyed the movie and despite its flaws I would have loved the movie as a whole if they hadn't used the "batman really escaped" ending. I just found it to be a good effort rather than reaching the expectations that I had of the film.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 5:23 pm to Pectus
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Confused on what happened to Bane after Tate revealed who she was.
He died.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 5:27 pm to molsusports
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the post-occupation Gotham as feeling right
I didn't have a single problem with the way they portrayed the occupation of the city. They showed a lot of destruction in a big montage scene and then cut away from the city for a few months while we got caught up on Bruce and his stint in the prison.
We come back to Gotham three months after the occupation began and the city is in the dead of winter. Temperatures fall so low that the river freezes over with a thick layer of ice. The power is off and on throughout the city. Obviously most people would be more concerned with keeping warm than sticking it to the man by that point. Plus, if you know anything about the occupation of France, you will know that people weren't out and about as much as they were before the Germans came through.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 5:31 pm to RollTide1987
I havent been on this board in some time. Forgot how much people overanalyze movies
Posted on 8/4/12 at 11:32 am to Pectus
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Confused on what happened to Bane after Tate revealed who she was.
He completely goes off character, as he was set up.
Posted on 8/4/12 at 12:02 pm to RollTide1987
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I didn't have a single problem with the way they portrayed the occupation of the city.
really?
No wonder you liked the movie so much...you didn't watch it.
Posted on 8/4/12 at 12:49 pm to theunknownknight
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No wonder you liked the movie so much...you didn't watch it.
Did you not read what I wrote? Is it your opinion that people would be rioting in the streets for three solid months? Because after the initial montage of all the chaos in Gotham, we don't return to Gotham City until three months later. By that time it's the dead of winter, with temperatures falling low enough to freeze an entire river in the middle of the day. And with the power being out through most of the city, don't you think that most people would stay inside in those kind of conditions?
Plus, as a history major, I can firmly say that Nolan nailed what an occupied city would look like. When Paris was under Nazi control from 1940-1944, you didn't see that many people walking the streets out of fear of running into a German soldier with a serious impulse control problem.
This post was edited on 8/4/12 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 8/4/12 at 1:23 pm to RollTide1987
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RollTide1987
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Theunknownnight
Yalls stamina in this thread has been impressive.
Posted on 8/4/12 at 1:27 pm to RollTide1987
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Plus, as a history major, I can firmly say that Nolan nailed what an occupied city would look like. When Paris was under Nazi control from 1940-1944, you didn't see that many people walking the streets out of fear of running into a German soldier with a serious impulse control problem.
Aside from the fact I dispute your very premise here, let's assume it's true. Are we to then believe a city like modern day Chicago would respond to an occupation like a pussified foreign city 70+ years ago?
This post was edited on 8/4/12 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 8/4/12 at 1:27 pm to DanglingFury
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Yalls stamina in this thread has been impressive.
Misspelled my name bro. #joxyproblems
Posted on 8/4/12 at 1:40 pm to theunknownknight
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Are we to then believe a city like modern day Chicago would respond to an occupation like a pussified foreign city 70+ years ago?
Considering the type of people that make up Chicago...uh...yeah.
Posted on 8/4/12 at 2:02 pm to RollTide1987
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Considering the type of people that make up Chicago
Posted on 8/4/12 at 8:47 pm to Aspercel
Any chance Killer Croc is batman's next villain?
Posted on 8/5/12 at 12:08 am to shuke33
I FINALLY got the chance to see DKR
1) when catwoman bent over and got on the batcycle, I almost fell out the chair
2) who does Robin turn out to become nightwing?
1) when catwoman bent over and got on the batcycle, I almost fell out the chair
2) who does Robin turn out to become nightwing?
This post was edited on 8/5/12 at 12:10 am
Posted on 8/5/12 at 12:28 am to Modern
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who does Robin turn out
is this in the porn version?
Posted on 8/5/12 at 12:42 am to ATLTiger
finally saw TDKR and I liked it a lot. I didn't think it was better than the other two, but that was just my initial feeling on the movie. I'll need to watch it again
don't feel like going too in depth right now, but i liked Bane's character. Tom Hardy did great with it
I just thought this movie was slightly less developed that the other two. or less complete. I can't really describe it right now, but I just found myself looking over at my buddy during certain parts and just sort of laughing at silly stuff
when the bomb was counting down, it would go from 23 days to 12 hours in 5 minutes of screen time, then there were like 11 minutes left after another 10. then 15 minutes would go by and a minute and half would go off the bomb. I don't know, just sort of edited weird. When Bane and his thugs took over the stock exchange building, I didn't see them enter with motorcycles. but when they made their escape, they just all of a sudden came out on crotch rockets. Maybe I missed it
anyway, not complaining, the movie kept me thoroughly enjoyed and I'll definitely want to see it again to know how much I really liked it. Me and my buddy left and both said, "yea that was pretty awesome"
Nolan's Batman trilogy is certainly one of my favorites
don't feel like going too in depth right now, but i liked Bane's character. Tom Hardy did great with it
I just thought this movie was slightly less developed that the other two. or less complete. I can't really describe it right now, but I just found myself looking over at my buddy during certain parts and just sort of laughing at silly stuff
when the bomb was counting down, it would go from 23 days to 12 hours in 5 minutes of screen time, then there were like 11 minutes left after another 10. then 15 minutes would go by and a minute and half would go off the bomb. I don't know, just sort of edited weird. When Bane and his thugs took over the stock exchange building, I didn't see them enter with motorcycles. but when they made their escape, they just all of a sudden came out on crotch rockets. Maybe I missed it
anyway, not complaining, the movie kept me thoroughly enjoyed and I'll definitely want to see it again to know how much I really liked it. Me and my buddy left and both said, "yea that was pretty awesome"
Nolan's Batman trilogy is certainly one of my favorites
This post was edited on 8/5/12 at 12:46 am
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