re: OFFICIAL - The Dark Knight Rises Discussion Thread - *SPOILERS*

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I don't have any problems with her portrayal at all because there really weren't any love interests for Bruce in this movie, nor should there have been. I regard his "relationship" with Miranda as nothing more than a fling, eight years without any sex finally getting to him.

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That's how I took it too. So I didn't get the point of the big twist/reveal at the end; nobody was surprised she was a duplicitous bitch that turned on him. The only "shock" was in her telling him WHO she was, and by then we'd clearly figured that the LOS was out to get him and Gotham.

Nolan or somebody have a bad breakup during the writing of the script? Bruce gets hosed by both chicks he shows any interest in. Kyle turns him over to Bane, and he gets a knife in the ribs from his pity-partner. Guy should go back into seclusion, seems the message here.

Hell, given the precedent we're seeing, Kyle will leave him floating facedown in a river after getting her past wiped out.

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No I don't. And even if I did, I wouldn't sit here and submit rewrites of the movie because I know no one would give a shite.

This isn't the thread to make up movies scenes.

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Then Jimbo, I'm glad the movie was perfect to you. Glad you loved it. Sorry the fact others thought it could be better offends you. Don't let my suggestions on how, bother you.

People discuss things on a discussion thread. Not always is the theme

"wow great! Right?"
"yeah, right! Wow!"

because if it was, it wouldn't be, you know, a discussion, but rather, a worship thread.

edited to correct crappy, tired-arse from work, lack of grammar

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Then Jimbo, I'm glad the movie was perfect to you. Glad you loved it. Sorry the fact others thought it could be better offends you. Don't let my suggestions on how, bother you. People discuss things on a discussion thread. Not always is the theme "wow great! Right?" "yeah, right! Wow!" because if it was, it wouldn't be, you know, a discussion, but rather, a worship thread.

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Plenty of people, including myself, have discussed the good and bad of this movie without adding some cheesy fan fiction.

i saw a bunch of projects in gotham. if that is the case, then half of the movie should've had looting.

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I love the movie, and can't wait to see it again, but how could Nolan not give Bane an epic death?
Total waste.

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+1 completely agree. I thought they would at least show him after being shot, possibly dying slowly or maybe show his face without the mask. Something that would make it a bit more epic. It reminded me of bobba fetts cheap death scene

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Then Jimbo, I'm glad the movie was perfect to you. Glad you loved it. Sorry the fact others thought it could be better offends you. Don't let my suggestions on how, bother you. People discuss things on a discussion thread. Not always is the theme "wow great! Right?" "yeah, right! Wow!" because if it was, it wouldn't be, you know, a discussion, but rather, a worship thread.

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That's awesome. That's the purest example of "Internet message board" speak I've ever seen.

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Bane's final exit was awful

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Dude, he gets beat down by Batman, cries out of love, then gets blasted by rockets. Seems like a lot, but yeah, somehow it was anticlimactic. They could've at least hovered over his body or something.

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With that said i thought Bobba Fett didn't actually die in ROTJ?

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frick yeah he died, I don't care if somebody brought him back in the extended universe. He died.

I just wanted to throw my two cents in with everyone else's.

Just saw it earlier today.

It wasn't horrible. It was pretty good. However, after the first two, I expected much, much better. Ending the trilogy should have been legendary. Hell, everything Nolan has ever made - except Inception which was still a good movie - is in my top twenty of all time.

But this? This was a total let down. I left the movie with so many questions - not about the plot because who could really care about it? - about bad lines, bad writing, and bad decisions.

Here they are. Answer if you can. I may like it better:

1. Who the frick is Catwoman? We know she's trying to get away from Bane for something. Not sure what. We know he wants to kill her. But he never does, and if there's one thing it seems that Bane can do well, it's find and kill people.

2. How does one survive a nuclear blast? No suit of armor or aircraft or magic League of Shadows dust can save someone from a direct shot of a nuclear bomb. So either the writing was terrible with the ending OR Batman got out.

And if he got out, then that ruins everything the movie was building with Batman, Bruce, and his love for Gotham.

The movie should have ended with his sacrifice. But it didn't. And since it didn't, that means Bruce ejected from the plane that was - as stated THREE times - erratic and unreliable with its autopilot. So Bruce cared more about his life than Gotham because if the plane was on autopilot, he ran the risk of it still destroying Gotham, which was stated by Lucius Fox earlier in the movie.

3. Robin. Are you fricking kidding me? ROBIN? Robin is one of the lamest characters of all time. He should have been written out a long time ago, and I thought Nolan was finally doing the world a justice and deleting him from the lore. But no. He had to show up. Except now he's not just Robin. He's Batman Robin. Even better. Robin completely takes over Batman's role. Thank God we won't see a fourth movie made with that homosexuality.

4. The plot twist. Talia. Ok, isn't Talia supposed to love Bruce Wayne? Like an unending, obsessive, everlasting love for Bruce and the type of love that pushes her to destroy shite just to be with him for eternity?

Anyways, back to the movie. You don't use the side character that seems to have very little to do with the overall plot. That's not who you use for the plot twist. I didn't give a shite about Miranda except that she had big boobs (and why did Bruce sleep with her? What did that contribute to the movie?). So when suddenly she's the main villain, I lost interest.

Even though it would have been worse from a plot point of view, conventional writing would have had Catwoman be Talia. That would at least explain her superhuman skills.

5. Alfred. Where did Alfred go? I thought they were setting up Alfred to die. He was Bruce's new father. That was a big part of the beginning. But Alfred just disappeared. Then came back to cry. Then went to a restaurant to be happy.

6. That's the biggest complaint of the movie. The emotional rollercoaster - and not in a good way. Nolan killed Batman. But he didn't! Bane is a maniacal, unstoppable killing machine who Batman must stop! Nope! Just a "protector" of Ghul's daughter (by the way, Ghul's immortal without a mention of the Lazarus Pit). Alfred's super sad because he let Bruce Wayne down. No, he's still alive and happy with Catwoman!

7. How the frick did Bruce Wayne get back into Gotham? He's stuck in a prison buried deep within some Arabian desert and gets out. Hurray! My first question after this was, "Wow. How's he going to get back into the city with the bridges out, the tunnels blocked, and the military guarding anyone from coming and going?

Oh, welp, he got in just fine. In fact, walked right up to where Catwoman was using an apple to whip two dude's asses.

Now, before you think I absolutely hated it, I didn't. I really didn't. It was a good, exciting blockbuster superhero comic book movie. But Nolan was supposed to do more than that. This was ordinary. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were legendary.

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Yeah, we've covered all that.

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I figured.

But after reading the first 25 pages of the thread, I thought, "frick it. I'm throwing mine in too!"

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On the phone, so I can't quote and will keep this short. I guess you missed the part that explained that Bruce fixed the autopilot.

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Yeah. The majority of his complaints make me think he missed half the movie or just didn't pay attention, especially after reading his first complaint