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re: OFFICIAL - The Dark Knight Rises Discussion Thread - *SPOILERS*
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:09 pm to theunknownknight
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:09 pm to theunknownknight
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Do you know how Wayne's encryption would work...from a different computer...from a different network?
He didn't encrypt them. I believe you've missed the point.
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:15 pm to theunknownknight
Wait so you want me to assume that because batman did this
We are to ASSUME Bane was careful enough to want to HIDE a transaction in the same way while RAIDING WALL STREET ON CAMERA WITH AUTOMATIC WEAPONS AND OPENLY MAKING THE FALSIFIED TRADE?
If Bane's intent was to go under the radar they could have sent one dude in there in a suit to make the trade clandestinely.
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Batman kept the encrypted list of trades with him. He made specific mention of not handing them to the police because they didn't have the tools to analyze it.
We are to ASSUME Bane was careful enough to want to HIDE a transaction in the same way while RAIDING WALL STREET ON CAMERA WITH AUTOMATIC WEAPONS AND OPENLY MAKING THE FALSIFIED TRADE?
If Bane's intent was to go under the radar they could have sent one dude in there in a suit to make the trade clandestinely.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:19 pm to theunknownknight
It is clearly stated in the movie when Batman looks at it on his computer that the trades were encrypted. Not sure what else to tell you.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:27 pm to LNCHBOX
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It is clearly stated in the movie when Batman looks at it on his computer that the trades were encrypted. Not sure what else to tell you.
Umm...all trades are encrypted. That doesn't change the fact the person DEFRAUDED is obvious, I mean, the tabloids were able to say Wayne lost all his money the very next day. Must not have been that encrypted. Couple that VERY questionable trade with the timing of a freaking group of terrorists invading the exchange at the SAME EXACT time with automatic weapons clearly making fraudulant trades and I think it becomes fairly obvious to the very same tabloids what happened.
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:28 pm to theunknownknight
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We are to ASSUME Bane was careful enough to want to HIDE a transaction
"Encrypting" and "hiding" are not synonymous.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:28 pm to theunknownknight
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hat doesn't change the fact the person DEFRAUDED is obvious,
Who's to say those are the only trades they made?
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Couple that VERY questionable trade with the timing of a freaking group of terrorists invading the exchange at the SAME EXACT time with automatic weapons clearly making fraudulant trades and I think it becomes fairly obvious to the very same tabloids what happened.
And? It would still take time to 1) prove it, and 2) do anything about it.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:30 pm to LNCHBOX
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And? It would still take time to 1) prove it, and 2) do anything about it.
1) yeah 10 minutes if the person has any common sense, and 9 of those minutes would be spent brewing coffee and booting up the PC
2) five months + later, he is still broke
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:31 pm to LNCHBOX
What's the current issue up for debate? 
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:32 pm to theunknownknight
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Couple that VERY questionable trade with the timing of a freaking group of terrorists invading the exchange at the SAME EXACT time with automatic weapons clearly making fraudulant trades and I think it becomes fairly obvious to the very same tabloids what happened.
And how would they have verified where Wayne was at the time? What if Wayne was one of the terrorists, and it was all a ploy to make some of his friends rich?
Wayne wouldn't have been able to prove his whereabouts at the time of the break in, since he was off being Batman.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:33 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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What's the current issue up for debate?
The Wall Street takeover/investigation/Wayne being broke at end of the movie
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:34 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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What's the current issue up for debate?
Same thing. The "impracticality" of the stock exchange subplot.
Hopefully we can debate the bank heist and Lau subplot from TDK, since it's even more unbelievable.
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:34 pm to Polar Bear
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And how would they have verified where Wayne was at the time? What if Wayne was one of the terrorists, and it was all a ploy to make some of his friends rich?
Yeah...that makes...sense
Another Nolan assumption I guess
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:37 pm to Polar Bear
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Hopefully we can debate the bank heist and Lau subplot from TDK, since it's even more unbelievable.
More plausible because of the nature/poetic intent of the Joker's character in juxtaposition to Batman.
Joker represented chaos and irrationality. The circumstances around his actions could reflect this as they reinforced the Joker's character
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:37 pm to theunknownknight
It's a hypothetical.
I assumed you would be able to recognize one since you employ them to justify your arguments.
I assumed you would be able to recognize one since you employ them to justify your arguments.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:38 pm to Polar Bear
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I assumed you would be able to recognize one since you employ them to justify your arguments.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:40 pm to theunknownknight
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More plausible because of the nature/poetic intent of the Joker's character in juxtaposition to Batman.
Joker represented chaos and irrationality. The circumstances around his actions could reflect this as they reinforced the Joker's character
No, no, no, no. You're going off the rails here and you don't even realize it.
You're arguing against the pragmatism of the stock exchange scene. The practicality of it, and how in real life, there would be checks and balances against such a ploy.
You can't defend the ostentatious impracticality of the bank heist and Lau subsplot from TDK with....character motivations.
Yeah, we get what the Joker represents. That doesn't mean the bank heist scene is realistic. It's more wacky in its practicality than anything in TDKR.
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:43 pm to Polar Bear
The opening scene of TDK is fantastic. One of the best scenes in any of the three movies IMO. Up until the school bus pulled out at the perfect time to jump in line with all the other busses. That always got on my nerves.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:44 pm to Polar Bear
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You can't defend the ostentatious impracticality of the bank heist and Lau subsplot from TDK with....character motivations.
Yes I can. If you deny this then you're undermining 99% of Nolan's plot devices
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:51 pm to theunknownknight
So you defend the bank heist scene with character motivations, failing to analyze whether any of that could actually happen, yet your number one argument against the stock exchange scene doesn't have to do with character motivations, but whether something like that could actually occur in real life.
Makes sense.
Makes sense.
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:51 pm to theunknownknight
I enjoyed the stock market robbery scene. I have no knowledge on how to defend it or argue against it though
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