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re: Obtuse Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice TD review thread (SPOILERS p5+)
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:45 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:45 pm to RLDSC FAN
It's not even about the movie at this point. It's about people getting mad about their point of view being criticized and calling out other people when they've done their own criticizing. It's ridiculous.
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:46 pm to LNCHBOX
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I was unaware I couldn't read a thread without posting in it constantly May be time for Chicken to update the posting guidelines. I did post a few times when this thread was much smaller if it makes you feel better though.
My point was that you were talking like I should know you, as if you're a famous or infamous poster in here. Yet I doubt we've had a conversation until you jumped in to say that I was the problem in this thread.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:48 pm to Fewer Kilometers
We've interacted before, but that's really not the point.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:58 pm to abellsujr
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It's not even about the movie at this point. It's about people getting mad about their point of view being criticized and calling out other people when they've done their own criticizing. It's ridiculous.
You say stuff like this, but then when someone makes a joke in here like BigApple Tiger did:
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Even if it was a flawed film, you have no right to enjoy any part of it or walk away feeling in any part satisfied. So let it be written, so let it be done. You take it back...now.
You jump on them like it's a serious argument:
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I swear, some of you guys have this weird "me against the world" mentality when it's not needed.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:10 pm to Fewer Kilometers
quote:Trust me, he's serious. He said this not long after:
You jump on them like it's a serious argument:
quote:Also, I just want to point out that you are continuing an argument that has nothing to do with you. You are failing to "deal with it".
This is the problem: The people who detest this film (and I can understand if you didn't like it) absolutely refuse to let up on anyone who did.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:23 pm to abellsujr
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Trust me, he's serious. He said this not long after:
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This is the problem: The people who detest this film (and I can understand if you didn't like it) absolutely refuse to let up on anyone who did.
You have been the most inflexible in your viewpoint of anyone else on this board, but let's continue to put smiley faces after our comments so we don't sound like we mean what we say
I don't have a problem with anyone not liking this film, the only problem I have is you won't allow me to say I enjoyed any part of it or that it wasn't the most egregiously bad film of the comic book genre.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:30 pm to BigAppleTiger
You are the king of smiley faces.
Look, I'm fine with people liking the movie and I have repeatedly said that I also enjoyed some parts. Most people really agree on a lot, it's just a matter of how much weight people put on certain things and how much criticism they give it. I classify it as a bad film and a massive disappointment even though you and I actually agree on many things. We've gone over this before.
Look, I'm fine with people liking the movie and I have repeatedly said that I also enjoyed some parts. Most people really agree on a lot, it's just a matter of how much weight people put on certain things and how much criticism they give it. I classify it as a bad film and a massive disappointment even though you and I actually agree on many things. We've gone over this before.
quote:I just don't understand what you're mad about. I have repeatedly said to enjoy the movie if you want to. I don't know what else you want from me.
I don't have a problem with anyone not liking this film, the only problem I have is you won't allow me to say I enjoyed any part of it or that it wasn't the most egregiously bad film of the comic book genre.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:00 pm to abellsujr
Well go back and observe this thread's highs and lows, and you will see the same pattern. A majority of posters hated this film. Just like a majority of critics.
But whenever someone posts a positive like 'I liked it" or 'it wasn't as bad as they say', you have the same posters that come back to thread to bash them for it. The Rotten Tomatoes audience score is 69%. This is despite the critics prepping movie-goers with a 28% 'approval rating'. And as the thread on CBM pointed out, it was the biggest disparity for a critic/audience CBM ever. That's says a lot...like, yeah, many critics and comic die-hards had pre-conceived notions, and couldn't envision Bats and Supes this way. Many could.
The critics loved wise-cracking raccoons. They loved super-heroes with profanity-laced rants.That shite didn't do it for me. This did.
But whenever someone posts a positive like 'I liked it" or 'it wasn't as bad as they say', you have the same posters that come back to thread to bash them for it. The Rotten Tomatoes audience score is 69%. This is despite the critics prepping movie-goers with a 28% 'approval rating'. And as the thread on CBM pointed out, it was the biggest disparity for a critic/audience CBM ever. That's says a lot...like, yeah, many critics and comic die-hards had pre-conceived notions, and couldn't envision Bats and Supes this way. Many could.
The critics loved wise-cracking raccoons. They loved super-heroes with profanity-laced rants.That shite didn't do it for me. This did.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:14 pm to EthanL
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But whenever someone posts a positive like 'I liked it" or 'it wasn't as bad as they say', you have the same posters that come back to thread to bash them for it.
This is a valid complaint for this board. That's my only major gripe with this thread.
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The critics loved wise-cracking raccoons. They loved super-heroes with profanity-laced rants.That shite didn't do it for me. This did.
This complaint is valid but also I can see the other side of the argument. Snyder and WB did something different that is an approach very similiar to Watchmen, but taking much more iconic characters as the vessel. Snyder tried to present opera to a rock and roll crowd.
While I appreciate the different approach, I feel there is are a few important aspects that Snyder missed out on:
1) A sense of wonder- I felt there was a lack of that "Speilbergian" quality of excitement and joy that makes your soul excited to be presented with (ET, Raiders, and the like).
2) A sense of heart- The comic book film that has captured this sense of heart and character the best has been, IMO, Captain America TFA and The Winter Soldier. Steve Rogers as a character really hit home in his unwavering dedication of friendship and love for Bucky and the goodness of the human spirit. "I'm with you til the end of the line" has the emotional resonance of any before or after IMO.
I would have liked for these themes to be explored more as related to Superman, but he has been a character in development in MOS and BvS. But I will say that BvS would have benefited from more heart and less storm and drang.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:16 pm to abellsujr
I feel sorry for whomever sees the length of this thread and thinks, "Wow, that must be a great movie."
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:25 pm to EthanL
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But whenever someone posts a positive like 'I liked it" or 'it wasn't as bad as they say'
You know, I liked it and didn't think it was anywhere close to as bad as people made it out to be. Then again I waited to see it, and had already read the reviews and posts that said it was terrible. I went in thinking it was going to be a complete pile of shite, so I was pleasantly surprised with the movie.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:26 pm to PsychTiger
No matter if you like it or hate it, BvS has done more to promote conversation and introspection about what we expect out of our heroes, mythology, and the type of world we inhabit than any other before it.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:31 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I did the same, nice empty theater last night. My expectations were low but I enjoyed the movie experience thoroughly. My dollars were well spent.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:11 pm to EthanL
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But whenever someone posts a positive like 'I liked it" or 'it wasn't as bad as they say', you have the same posters that come back to thread to bash them for it.
Hypocrite alert. You, Fewer Kilometers, and now BigApple are doing an opposite but equal thing. How do you not get that?
Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:25 pm to LNCHBOX
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Hypocrite alert. You, Fewer Kilometers, and now BigApple are doing an opposite but equal thing. How do you not get that?
I addressed specifics and called some people on misinformation that they were putting out. I didn't bash anyone for disliking the movie. I made it clear that there was plenty to dislike about the movie but that I enjoyed it. At worst, I made a "you're high" or similar comment when someone gave an over the top review.
If someone says that they hated the movie, then fine. If someone claims that something happened in the movie that didn't, or makes some outrageous claim, I might call them on it.
If you think that I was consistently bashing people for disliking the movie then, yeah, you're high.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:37 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I addressed specifics and called some people on misinformation that they were putting out. I didn't bash anyone for disliking the movie
You said I was filled with "manufactured outrage" and fell for some article I've never read hook line and sinker b/c I mixed up two actors in the movie that had minor roles when talking about how shooting an unnamed Jimmy Olsen in the face is an example of Snyder not understanding/caring about the source material as well as holding contempt towards his built in audience.
That was pretty condescending mayne.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:40 pm to Dr RC
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You said I was filled with "manufactured outrage" and fell for some article I've never read hook line and sinker b/c I mixed up two actors in the movie that had minor roles when talking about how shooting an unnamed Jimmy Olsen in the face is an example of Snyder not understanding/caring about the source material as well as holding contempt towards his built in audience.
That was pretty condescending mayne.
Because you did. You quoted an internet rumor that never took place as a portion of the actual film. You were pissed about Scoot McNairy getting killed in the role of Jimmy Olsen when that never happened. You even bragged about being a Scoot McNairy fan and knowing exactly who he was until I corrected you.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:45 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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If someone says that they hated the movie, then fine. If someone claims that something happened in the movie that didn't, or makes some outrageous claim, I might call them on it.
You say this, but you are here weeks later still vehemently defending this movie. And no, that's not an exaggeration.
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If you think that I was consistently bashing people for disliking the movie then, yeah, you're high.
It hasn't been limited to this thread. I'm convinced you had something to do with this movie the way you've defended it on here. Downvote away, I don't give a shite. But don't act like you've just been casually discussing this movie.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:58 pm to LNCHBOX
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You say this, but you are here weeks later still vehemently defending this movie. And no, that's not an exaggeration.
I haven't posted in this thread in a week. I made one sarcastic quip to Freuxzen today (not about the film, but about his attitude) and you decided to chime in.
I ignored your sarcastic reply to me. No big deal.
Then on the next page you decide to bring me up as "the issue" with the thread. A thread that I've avoided for the entire week.
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It hasn't been limited to this thread. I'm convinced you had something to do with this movie the way you've defended it on here. Downvote away, I don't give a shite. But don't act like you've just been casually discussing this movie.
I've been very active in this thread but I'm far from being the lead poster in it. Thinking that I'm in league with Warner Brothers is about as insane as thinking that the detractors in here are in cahoots with Disney and Marvel.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 4:08 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I haven't posted in this thread in a week. I made one sarcastic quip to Freuxzen today (not about the film, but about his attitude) and you decided to chime in.
I ignored your sarcastic reply to me. No big deal.
Again, there's been more than this thread.
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Then on the next page you decide to bring me up as "the issue" with the thread. A thread that I've avoided for the entire week.
See above.
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I've been very active in this thread but I'm far from being the lead poster in it.
See above.
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Thinking that I'm in league with Warner Brothers is about as insane as thinking that the detractors in here are in cahoots with Disney and Marvel.
Do you honestly think I think you work in the industry?
I could respond further to this, but I didn't think it was necessary. The bottom line is you have been extremely vocal in your support of this movie and constantly defend it. Stop telling me you don't do that, because you have been. The proof is right there in you post history. I don't care that you do it, but stop acting like you don't do it. That's all.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 4:12 pm
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