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re: NY Times: Can Shawn Levy Resuscitate 'Star Wars'

Posted on 1/9/26 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 1/9/26 at 9:26 pm to
In the words of the great Clint Eastwood “if you get the screenplay and the casting right you’re 90% of the way home”. The director gets too much credit and blame in movies like this. Levy has basically been cast as well but the studio will not let him have autonomy and until that changes the slop and flops will continue.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3396 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 1:01 am to
Star Wars is dead. Only the movies made by Lucas are Canon. Everything else is just a delirious dream Anakin is having from the pain of having his limbs cut off by Old Ben Kenobi. Anakin just laying by the lava on the low ground screaming "I hate you!". The Mando and Grogu movie will lose money.

*The only film I would be willing to watch is a Kylo Ren movie movie of him restoring the Jedi Order and Rey being possessed by the Sith. No women directors, no wokie writers. Pre Disney Star Wars movie magic.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 2:45 am to
The best thing they could do is completely end the franchise.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
4622 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 12:01 pm to
I would do anything to see what George Lucas’ sequel trilogy would have looked like. Say what you want about the prequels, but those films at least had their own unique style and aesthetic that was different from the original trilogy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477226 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

but the general consensus seemed to be that it was solid and maybe relied too much on similarities to the first SW (which is understandable, but didn’t bother me too much).


The biggest problem with TFA was recreating an empire-like bad (for the rehash/homage)

It just created too many issues moving forward to recreate the empire/rebels paradigm when the rebels should have been in charge.

I know subversion is a derogatory word on here but inverting the conflict with a little subversion was a much more rich dramatic/creative palate, IMHO.

Have the Republic in charge dealing with splinter groups and having to justify the goodness, ultimately. Have the 2nd movie end with some huge frickup (or the fruit of a prior frickup being realized) giving the rebel/bad guys the moral edge/support is a good 2nd act climax . You make it seem like the Republic and force are doomed.

Remember the Yoda dark side progression from episode 1 and basically have the rebels/bad guys/sith using that with the population

shite I just OML'd this thread
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60100 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 12:43 pm to
I thought doing another death star was so freaking lazy. That's when I started worrying about Disney being in charge.
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
5069 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

"Make your product for your customers, not who you wish your customers were" ---Palmer Lucky


What a great quote.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156636 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

The biggest problem with TFA was recreating an empire-like bad (for the rehash/homage)

It just created too many issues moving forward to recreate the empire/rebels paradigm when the rebels should have been in charge.

I know subversion is a derogatory word on here but inverting the conflict with a little subversion was a much more rich dramatic/creative palate, IMHO.

I don’t agree fully with that even though I follow what you’re saying. IMO I thought JJA knocked it out if the park with TFA about as best as he could have, for the most part.

Sure some of it was a rehash, but like someone already mentioned I appreciated the homage to the OG trilogy, and that’s how I took it (as opposed to a ripoff or something cheap). And the most interesting thing JJA did with his story was Finn. A stormtrooper defector is interesting as frick. And I think Boyega did a decent job with that. I also didn’t even mind Rey as the main character. And initially she wasn’t Mary Janed really.

But then you had RJ come in and basically undo everything that did work in TFA. That was the main mistake Disney made IMO. I would’ve loved to see JJA build on what he has established in the first one. But instead we got what we got. Now I don’t even hate TLJ and think it’s decent. But he completely neutered the best thing about TFA (Finn) and introduced a lot of other bullshite (Rose, the Laura Dern character, the useless side mission with the animals and orphans, Luke quitting, etc.) and the plot took a shitload of wild and dumb turns.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156636 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

The biggest problem with TFA was recreating an empire-like bad (for the rehash/homage)

It just created too many issues moving forward to recreate the empire/rebels paradigm when the rebels should have been in charge.

I know subversion is a derogatory word on here but inverting the conflict with a little subversion was a much more rich dramatic/creative palate, IMHO.

I don’t agree fully with that even though I follow what you’re saying. IMO I thought JJA knocked it out if the park with TFA about as best as he could have, for the most part.

Sure some of it was a rehash, but like someone already mentioned I appreciated the homage to the OG trilogy, and that’s how I took it (as opposed to a ripoff or something cheap). And the most interesting thing JJA did with his story was Finn. A stormtrooper defector is interesting as frick. And I think Boyega did a decent job with that. I also didn’t even mind Rey as the main character. And initially she wasn’t Mary Janed really.

But then you had RJ come in and basically undo everything that did work in TFA. That was the main mistake Disney made IMO. I would’ve loved to see JJA build on what he has established in the first one. But instead we got what we got. Now I don’t even hate TLJ and think it’s decent. But he completely neutered the best thing about TFA (Finn) and introduced a lot of other bullshite (Rose, the Laura Dern character, the useless side mission with the animals and orphans, Luke quitting, etc.) and the plot took a shitload of wild and dumb turns.
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