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TONY!!!! The best player won, period. Great season! Now, get rid of EOE.

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I hope that is the last EOE. I like Natalie, and thought she did a great job defending her game, but the first person voted out of the game has no business winning the game.

Man, Michelle came on strong at the end. Crazy she went to 15 of the 19 tribals and made it to the end. She’s obviously a better player than I’ve given her credit for.

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Yeah 100% agree on all that.

Michelle really impressed me with her talk with Nick last week. She really understood what was happening she just was never in a position to ever flip the numbers.

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I got the sense she’s taken some criticism since her last win on how cutthroat she played, and it rubbed her the wrong way how the jury was perceiving Tony’s cutthroat game as brilliant. Feel like a LOT of that conversation was edited out and it’s missing some more context.

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That makes sense. I honestly don’t remember much about her season at all, so I really don’t know how she got the win.

I do think she and Tony played really different games this season, not sure about their earlier ones.

I never felt like she or Sophie had much of a social game or considered any options of working with other people or even bothering to interact with them once they had the numbers.


Tony on the other hand played socially as well as anyone I can remember. I mean for a while there it was hard to tell which side he was actually on. At least by the edit, although I’m sure Sarah was always his #1.

I think he really did respect the police/army/firefighter bond with those guys and would have worked with Jeremy longer but after blindsiding Sarah to get Sophie out he needed to give her that vote to reassure her they were going all the way.

But again he only pulled off that Sophie vote because he worked so well with the other side.

I didn’t even really find his game that cutthroat other than the Sophie move I guess. I’m always more turned off by the pure majority just blindly closing off communication the moment they find themselves with the numbers.

Tony did a great job of genuinely keeping his options open, like I said maybe better than I’ve ever seen on Survivor.

Out of the final 3 Tony was a no brainer. I think it would have been very interesting had Sarah made it tho. I was very surprised Ben basically quit when he did. Don’t understand that move.

ETA was not a fan of EoE at all.

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Glad I had the show on DVR and started to fast forward when Sarah started her BS woke speech. Does she really think Russel never got hated for his game being cutthroat? He just doesn't dwell on what the haters say.

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Exactly. Plenty of hated male contestants like Russell or Richard. Plenty of loved female contestants like Parvati or Wentworth. Jeff Probst has caved to the sjw crowd.

I don’t think Sarah is hated at all. The first time she played her niceness got her cut byTony. Then she came back and played a different game and won. I just wanted to see how the votes would have gone if Sarah and tony were both up there.

The SJW survivor started well before doo rags.

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Is Ben a loser? Does he need friends at his age that bad?

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It clearly wasn’t really to “make friends”.

I think he was acting based on the same thing that motivated Sarah, which is the public perception and criticism that they face once they return home.

Like I said I don’t really remember my impression of Sarah, but I strongly remember disliking Ben. This board is pretty much my only “social media” presence, but unfortunately I know a lot of the people that watch these shows get off on attacking the characters on all the other platforms.

If the reaction once they return home is mostly negative, or at least feels that way based on the lunatics that terrorize these people online, I don’t doubt that can take a serious mental toll on a good amount of them and it can influence them and their actions in major ways.


Sarah’s soliloquy was directly disproven by Ben himself, who clearly also came under the same fire she did for the way he played the game, or at least the way it was received. Ben actually mentioned many times throughout the game that he was trying to play differently and wanting to do better about making connections.

If Sarah came in feeling that way, it wasn’t shown or highlighted by the edit, which doesn’t make a lot sense seeing as how her speech was such a big focal point late in the game. It seems to me the production staff would have built up to that if there was footage to do so.

But imo the only reason those feelings came out in such a prominent way was because of frustration from feeling she had the game under control then being confronted with the possibility that she hadn’t played as well as she thought she had in her own mind.

It just came off as sour grapes after reveling in her perceived power the whole game imo.


The funniest part of the whole thing is that if Ben had just kept his cool, it was very likely that at least two of his alliance, if not all three of them, would have made the Final three.

But by sacrificing himself to “help” his friend Sarah, he actually made it much harder for her in the subsequent tribals.

Just a strange knee jerk reaction, but again the mental motivations really do play a real factor, especially for returning players like this.

At least in my case, this viewer was not more impressed by his act of “friendship”, in fact I dislike him even more now, so let that be a cautionary tale about trying to manage your public perception in games like this



On another note, I agree with an earlier post not understanding why Michelle and Natalie voted out Denise in that first tribal rather than forcing rocks to potentially break up the big three??

It was moved over pretty quickly but that seemed like a strange play imo.

Would have been awesome to see Sarah go out as a direct result of shrugging off Tony’s pleas, in the most condescending way possible (“I’ve spent 38 days talking Tony off the edge” ).

It would have been even funnier seeing her go out right after her big speech, but I’m guessing that actually was part of their decision. So ultimately the speech could have been a huge factor in Sarah’s game had she won that fire challenge.

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Tony was the clear winner and had been for several weeks. And he was a few rope strands from being eliminated. Natalie was a good player but, the whole EOE thing gives people too many unfair advantages. She got to play the game without the added stress of possibly getting voted out. she had several weeks with the jury members to make friends outside of game play. while those same players were stewing over getting blindsided. Ben is a dumbass. made it to final 5 and then says vote me out? it's the same as quitting. i liked sarah up until the whole "gender bias" rant. Does she not remember there was a heroes vs villains season? Rob,Coach,Russell even tyson were considered villains. Gender bias yet there were comps where a man AND a woman won immunity?

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No doubt Tony was the clear winner, it was great to see him pull it off.

Natalie didn't deserve to be there after being away from the actual game for so long. Either get rid of EoE or tweak it like someone said yesterday.

Sarah needs a big glass of shut the hell up. Attention whoring at it's finest. When are people going to realize men and women are different? No matter how much some want to make them equal it just won't happen. The SJW stuff needs to go away, just play the damn game. Life's a bitch and it sure isn't fair, just do what you can do.

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I can appreciate her view that there is a double standard in regards to how men and women are perceived. I think it's a bit naive to think there isn't. Strong, dominant males that can sometimes be a-holes are regarded as alpha males and largely adored. Strong, confident women that can sometimes be a-holes are called bitches and degraded.

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Not sure that will change honestly. It's like guys who get a lot of girls is a stud and women who get a lot of men are sluts. Men and women are different in almost everyway yet the difference isn't as much as some like to portray. For this game, especially being all past winners, her thinking was kinda stupid. Who gives a crap if others thought your previous win wasn't good enough, you won. End of story.

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For this game, especially being all past winners, her thinking was kinda stupid. Who gives a crap if others thought your previous win wasn't good enough, you won.

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Eh, acceptance is a basic human desire. Ben, Michelle, and Amber all also said last night that they didn't feel the public appreciated them winning their seasons. And I don't think Sarah ever mentioned her win wasn't good enough. It was more about the criticisms of HOW she won when juxtaposed to how Tony's game was being perceived by the jury. She felt she did a lot of the same conniving and she's labeled a bitch, while Tony's conniving is celebrated. At least that's how I took her comments.

FWIW, I think Sarah's speech was primarily just a plea to the jury to consider that she has been working with Tony the whole time in light of Natalie revealing that Tony is dominating in the jury's mind.

Although there is some truth to it, and the game has been won far more often by men than women, it was really a speech to the jury in case her and Tony were both there at the end. Put it in their minds now instead of final tribal.

Ben "quitting" was weird to me, looking back, but in the end it saved Tony more than anyone, assuming that Michele gets voted out at final 5. Natalie (if she still wins) then almost certainly pits Ben against Tony making fire and Ben was considered the best there at making fire. Of course it might have all played out differently. Ben also knew damn well that he had no chance of winning. Probably not even had it been him, Natalie, and Michele.

Also they could have just listened to Tony and split the votes at 6, then Tony and Ben both have idols at 5, and Natalie probably doesn't find one because there probably isn't one put back into play. Denise still goes home, sucks for her, but if Tony, Ben, or Sarah win that immunity (which Tony did) then all three are safe.

I'm just glad Tony ended up winning. That was one of the most dominant showings ever.

Michele is now the only player ever to play multiple seasons and not get voted out or quit. (Jenna played twice and never got voted out but quit All-Stars because she had a sick family member.)