re: New Transformers Movie

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FYI I called u out for being an arrogant prick not for not knowing what makes a good action movie

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If you dig boring emotional dramas then cool for you. When I go to movie theaters, I want to see shite I don't get to see everyday such as giant alien robots beating the shite out of each other. I don't care about a character's lifestory - I'm here for 2 - 2 and a half hours. If I want to be entertained by a long deep story with great character development, then that's what I have my television for.

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I was not aware that character development was against the rules in motion pictures.

I understand what the guy is saying, even though I don't think he is saying it very well.

He is seperating popcorn flicks that are for pure entertainment value from movies like The Kings Speech and The Social Network. I understand what he is getting at. I won't even go to pay serious money at a theater unless it is something that woul dbe a completely different experience at a theater (i.e. and "action" movie).

I mean, how many "popcorn flciks" out there don't have plot holes, cheesy lines and get nominated for Best Picture. And before you all bring up TDK, it has its share of ridiculousness and absurdity and every time someone on this board brings that up the defense is "its a comic book movie".

I'm not really trying to hijack the thread and I've already made my feelings known about Transformers 2.

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I mean, how many "popcorn flciks" out there get nominated for Best Picture.

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Avatar.

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If you are talking about Transformers then maybe action just isn't for you. No one in their right mind would ever say these movies were Oscar contenders or had a great story. I mean for frick's sake they are based off of an animated japanese show and a toy line about giant alien robots for crying out loud. If you dig boring emotional dramas then cool for you. When I go to movie theaters, I want to see shite I don't get to see everyday such as giant alien robots beating the shite out of each other. I don't care about a character's lifestory - I'm here for 2 - 2 and a half hours. If I want to be entertained by a long deep story with great character development, then that's what I have my television for.

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1. Paragraphs are your friend.

2. Just because it isn't a "boring, emotional drama" doesn't give it an excuse to lack any sort of value beyond simple entertainment. There have been hundreds of quality films that would not be categorized in the drama genre.

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product placement in movies isn't new.

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The history of product placement doesn't lessen the blow.

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I wouldn't label Avatar as a popcorn flick

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Special effects driven . . . check

Overused, simplified, ridiculous plot . . . check

Cookie cutter characters . . . check

Complete lack of character development . . . check

Avatar maybe the most potent example of a popcorn click . . . and a bad one at that.

Avatar is cinema's answer to the strobe light.

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Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Lord of the Rings, E.T.

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Braveheart
Gladiator
No Country for Old Men
The Hurt Locker
The Departed
Saving Private Ryan
Pulp Fiction


That's just off the top of my head.

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The first Transformers was bad.

The second one was worse.

We're back on track.

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How can any adult even consider watching these ridiculous movies? It isn't even mindless action. It's just plain mindless.

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I'll never understand that line of thinking. I'll likely see the third TF movie in theaters, just like I saw the last two.

Sure, they're corny and stupid at times, but who cares? I sure as hell don't. And if you do care, then you can very easily avoid seeing them.

And the above quote is ridiculous. Of course it's action. Just because you (in general) may gripe about the action moving too fast or the camera being too close (which was a complaint of mine before) doesn't mean it's not action.

I also still stand by my thoguhts on TF2...everyone who saw it and thought it sucked has only themselves to blame, because you knew going into it what to expect. Sure, there were plotholes...massive ones...but those aren't the issue. There were plot holes in the first one too. The second TF movie was everything that the first one had, just amped up and overplayed (like the ghetto robots, the stupid parents, the corny jokes, etc.). My stance for this next one remains the exact same as it was for the first two...as long as lots of shite blows up and the transformers look cool, I'm happy.

And this movie will likely make 3/4 of a billion dollars (or come relatively close to that).