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My Biggest Beefs With Breaking Bad

Posted on 7/7/15 at 1:08 am
Posted by SystemsGo
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 1:08 am
I've bumped a few old Breaking Bad threads after finishing up the show today, but I figured I'd start my own to air my beefs.*

I only found Jesse Pinkman to be believable in very few spots. I thought he was tolerable and believable towards the end of season 4, but pretty much other than that I thought he was overacted, not believable, and generally terrible. And it appears that I'm like the only person in the world who thinks this.

I didn't buy that Hank would completely turn on his brother-in-law like that. I realize Hank's character is not supposed to be one of great depth, but I just can't buy him not even weighing consequences of whether to go after Walt a little bit. I can't buy him not factoring their relationship into whether he pursued him in a completely gung go manner.

Also, this has been mentioned before, but there is no way that Walter White leaves that book there.

The notion of Walt being able to cook purer meth than Jesse after them cooking God knows how many batches together is just completely absurd and almost enough so to kinda ruin it for me.

When Walt says "I'm in the empire business", it seems out of character completely. That seemed forced.

Would Walter White really have driven out to the scene where he buried his money in a mad dash based on that call? Wouldn't he have previously checked whether the van had GPS? Of course he would have.

I might think of a few more.


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*I don't want these beefs to be interpreted as me not liking the series. I definitely did.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 1:10 am
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16316 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 1:53 am to
An obviously inflammatory post highlighting nothing but the negatives of one of the consensus GOAT television shows. And on at least half of the points, the OP is grasping for straws at best.


This will go well.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36200 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 1:57 am to
I pretty much disagree with all of that.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 2:01 am to
I don't think any of your point are crazy, though I do disagree with some more than others. My biggest issue with this show was that I disliked all of the characters more and more each episode. There was literally nobody I was pulling for by the end, though I was still very much invested. One of the best series ever. Fly episode was absolute garbage.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 2:07 am to
quote:

I only found Jesse Pinkman to be believable in very few spots. I thought he was tolerable and believable towards the end of season 4, but pretty much other than that I thought he was overacted, not believable, and generally terrible. And it appears that I'm like the only person in the world who thinks this.





Upon reading the rest of your thoughts, I'm certainly glad that you didn't pursue television writing. Or maybe you did..were you involved with the final season of Dexter or the walking dead 2-4?
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 5:32 am to
quote:

My Biggest Beefs With Breaking Bad


You're not allowed to have any.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 5:35 am to
quote:

My biggest issue with this show was that I disliked all of the characters more and more each episode. There was literally nobody I was pulling for by the end, though I was still very much invested. One of the best series ever. Fly episode was absolute garbage.


This is pretty much where I am.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22188 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:18 am to
quote:

overacted, not believable, and generally terrible



Good description of RL meth smokers.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36510 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:21 am to
Dude I didnt know if I was the only one, but I HATED the fly episode. I came off thinking man they went way out of the way for this episode.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5318 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:41 am to
quote:


I only found Jesse Pinkman to be believable in very few spots. I thought he was tolerable and believable towards the end of season 4, but pretty much other than that I thought he was overacted, not believable, and generally terrible. And it appears that I'm like the only person in the world who thinks this.


I disagree with this. I thought his character was believable. I don't know what else to say here. Maybe he shouldn't have killed GB but other than that I really thought he was awesome.

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I didn't buy that Hank would completely turn on his brother-in-law like that. I realize Hank's character is not supposed to be one of great depth, but I just can't buy him not even weighing consequences of whether to go after Walt a little bit. I can't buy him not factoring their relationship into whether he pursued him in a completely gung go manner.


This doesn't really bug me either. I think he'd have some leniency for Walt if it weren't as serious a crime, but you have to understand he knows about GB, Walt crashing the car, being in cahoots with a drug kingpin, said drug kingpin's death, etc, etc, etc. If I found out my brother was killing people in his own self interest I'd turn him in in a heartbeat.

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Also, this has been mentioned before, but there is no way that Walter White leaves that book there.


I can buy this. He's pretty careful. And especially considering he killed GB.

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The notion of Walt being able to cook purer meth than Jesse after them cooking God knows how many batches together is just completely absurd and almost enough so to kinda ruin it for me.


Disagree. Jesse is still kind of a doofus, and WW is a chemist savant. Jesse's was still like 92% pure, which is only minimally less pure at any rate.

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When Walt says "I'm in the empire business", it seems out of character completely. That seemed forced.


I do agree that some of Walt's motivation was a little hard to swallow, but it was the point of the whole series. Walt's ego became completely tied up in his success as a drug lord because he was good at it and his entire life he had pretty much wasted his immense intellect and talents. He was as much invested into the business by the end of the series as he was in his family. Still, some of it was hard to buy, so I partially agree with you here. If I had one beef with the show it was that WW's attachment to the drug business was a little forced at several points during the run of the show, and not entirely believable.

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Would Walter White really have driven out to the scene where he buried his money in a mad dash based on that call? Wouldn't he have previously checked whether the van had GPS? Of course he would have.



No. All his eggs are in that basket and he's not thinking clearly when he rushes out there. Everyone makes mistakes. There were numerous other events I had a harder time believing.



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My main other beef with the show is that some of the physical action was a little unbelievable, particularly the machine-gun thing at the end. And that BS crystal bomb stuff he made (that looked exactly like meth) when he first went to Tuco's. Still, it was overall one of my favorite shows of all time.
Posted by Birdie King
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2013
8065 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:43 am to
the only part I couldn't go with (and laughed at plot wise) was when Walter and Skyler blackmailed Hank with the videotape.

Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:58 am to
quote:

didn't buy that Hank would completely turn on his brother-in-law like that.


Out of curiosity, did you watch the show?
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
Member since Apr 2006
16903 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:58 am to
quote:

Fly episode was absolute garbage.

Here come the people to tell you, "you obviously didn't get it"... but I agree
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2719 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:12 am to
quote:

SystemsGo


Posted by SystemsGo
Member since Oct 2014
2774 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:23 am to
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Dude I didnt know if I was the only one, but I HATED the fly episode. I came off thinking man they went way out of the way for this episode.


I didn't like that episode either. I saw where someone posted earlier in a different thread that it was one of the best episodes in television history. I don't know what to say to that.
Posted by SystemsGo
Member since Oct 2014
2774 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:30 am to
quote:

Disagree. Jesse is still kind of a doofus, and WW is a chemist savant. Jesse's was still like 92% pure, which is only minimally less pure at any rate.


Walt was obviously way way smarter than Jesse, but the genius is in the creation of the method. After that it's just a sequence of steps. The idea that Jesse's "kind of douchiness" prevents him from perfectly executing the same sequence he's done a hundred times with Walt in the lab when Walt isn't in the lab is silly.
Posted by SystemsGo
Member since Oct 2014
2774 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:31 am to
quote:

DukeSilver


You have no idea what "grasping at straws" means.
Posted by SystemsGo
Member since Oct 2014
2774 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:32 am to
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And on at least half of the points, the OP is grasping for straws at best.


You don't either.
Posted by SystemsGo
Member since Oct 2014
2774 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:33 am to
quote:

the only part I couldn't go with (and laughed at plot wise) was when Walter and Skyler blackmailed Hank with the videotape.


I actually found that part believable.
Posted by SystemsGo
Member since Oct 2014
2774 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:37 am to
quote:

I don't think any of your point are crazy, though I do disagree with some more than others. My biggest issue with this show was that I disliked all of the characters more and more each episode. There was literally nobody I was pulling for by the end, though I was still very much invested. One of the best series ever. Fly episode was absolute garbage.


I never stopped pulling for Walt. I'm not sure if that makes me a bad person or not. I started pulling for him a little bit less, though, after the prison murders. And speaking of those...I think perfect execution of that plan is probably a bit of a stretch, but it's not one that I have any trouble going along with.
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