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re: MTV The Challenge: Total Madness

Posted on 8/23/20 at 6:14 am to
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 8/23/20 at 6:14 am to
Just finished battle of the exes 2. That was Wes and Theresa's game to win. Them vs Jordan and Sarah would of been an epic final.

Also Zach is probably the worst partner ever. He's more of a hot head than any of the girls.

Watching Bloodlines this must be the season Camila goes racist on Leroy.

Tony and Shane is hilarious
This post was edited on 8/23/20 at 6:19 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22767 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 5:21 pm to
Bloodlines is really bad from what I remember.

That's officially when the show jumped the shark for a few years and Ashley got all of her money on easy finals and stealing $500K from Hunter.

Cara Maria also got a layup win by beating Zack in a puzzle after he had a huge lead on her. This is when the show tried to turn itswlf into Bad Girls Club instead of a competition show.

It took that Navy SEAL producer guy to come back at War of the World's to get the show back on track.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/23/20 at 9:53 pm to
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Cara Maria also got a layup win by beating Zack in a puzzle after he had a huge lead on her

That was the worst. I remember being so fricking mad when that happened. I’m not a big Zach fan but he got so screwed.
This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22767 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 1:58 am to
Cara has two totally hack wins. The finals that she won are both jokes during that Bloodlines era.

They were winning like $50,000 each on Rivals 1 and then they decided to start giving away in really shitty era of the Challenge.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18984 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 4:15 am to
The Final Ashley won was not that easy. Just because there wasnt a lot of running. There also was no real layup like most Finals.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22767 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 7:10 am to
The final that Ashley stole all of the money from Hunter (the overwhelming bulk of all the cash she's won on the show) was basically the easiest final in the modern history of the show. John even said as much recently. They walked across coals,.. And that was really about it from what I remember.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18984 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 6:46 am to
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The final that Ashley stole all of the money from Hunter (the overwhelming bulk of all the cash she's won on the show) was basically the easiest final in the modern history of the show. John even said as much recently. They walked across coals,.. And that was really about it from what I remember.


They had a 2 decent runs I think 5 kilometers and 4 kilometers. On the 1st run Paulie left Natalie and she got lost. They had to eat a bunch of crazy shite.

It definitely wasn't the hardest final but there being no layup definitely keeps it from being the easiest
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 7:10 am to
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That was the worst. I remember being so fricking mad when that happened. I’m not a big Zach fan but he got so screwed.



Still doesn’t top the screw job they did to Kenny and Wes in the Rivals final. Their rumored 45 minute day one lead was reduced to just 2 minutes the next morning.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 1:23 pm to
One thing I will never get over on these challenges: the fact that they let all of the people do puzzles out in the open and everyone can usually just cheat off one another.
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 10:19 pm to
125k+ money....if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

One of my favorite challenge memories is back in the old days when Evan showed up to a puzzle elimination, he had the puzzles drawn on his forearm and got caught before the elimination started.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22767 posts
Posted on 8/25/20 at 10:51 pm to
That was on the original Duel. He had markings in open sight all over his a arms. TJ was like, 'Dude, what the frick is this?"

That season had one of the best casts ever. Evan got sent home in that elimination by CT I think.

Evan never had good luck against CT. When he was fat on Rivals 1, he also got boat raced by CT and Adam. Nehemiah was absolutely livid. Evan couldn't even lift his own body weight at that point.

Nehemiah had such a great line when Evan threw the challenge to try to knock out CT: "I'm playing the game with a bunch of bitches. And I have the biggest bitch of all as my partner."
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18984 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 2:37 am to
Lol Bananas cousin Vince has to be one of biggest losers ever on the show. Jenna squirms everytime he even looks at her
This post was edited on 8/27/20 at 2:40 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22767 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 6:32 am to
Creepy uncle Vince and bassically every other Bloodline cast member didn't go past 1 or 2 seasons.

If you look at the cast now, they've bassically purged all of the AYTO cast as well. I think only Nelson and Torri are regulars that came from that show.

MTV was wise to cut them out of the cast unless they were really good competitors. Most of them just wanted camera time by yelling at everyone and didnt being anything else to the table. Thankfully, that stuff is now mostly gone.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18984 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 10:49 am to
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If you look at the cast now, they've bassically purged all of the AYTO cast as well. I think only Nelson and Torri are regulars that came from that show
Hunter, Kam and maybe Amanda are AYTO alums that I would consider regulars on The Challenge. I would imagine Devin would comeback at some point he and Bananas Beef is great
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 11:08 am to
I wouldn't be surprised to see Britni again either, unless there's some behind the scenes reason.


The last Bloodlines returnee was Nicole in season 31.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18984 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 11:24 am to
The only real good competitor from bloodlines is Cory's cousin Mitch. Tony's brother Shane would be great for TV though.

Speaking of Tony he's someone I really hope comesback to the show. He's one of the best characters ever(on the Challenge or Real World)
This post was edited on 8/27/20 at 11:39 am
Posted by kballa6
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4081 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 12:12 pm to
Rumored Challenge 36 cast is on Twitter. Quarantine day was Aug 23rd, departure date TBA. I'm not sure how accurate it is or if the user is credible. If you're curious check @GamerVev. Tweet was from 4 days ago.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22767 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:44 pm to
*Potential casting spoilers for S36 below*













So, apparently the cast was just gathered last week to quarantine, including alternates. Looks like no Cara or Paulie again (good), and Darrell and Theresa (who's now married to an NFL player I think) both coming back. I can't imagine them as alternates.

There actually seems to be some really during females this time. Some how cock from Titan Games, Lolo Jones (I bet she quits 3 eps in), Tori is back, Jenny is back, Kaycee is back, lesbian Nicole is back, and Theresa was always good. Ashley, again, has no shot and I'm glad.

Dudes have done big guns as well. Apparently one dude is a pro wrestler, Fessie is back, Darrell, Wes, John, fat CT, some jacked guy from Big Brother.

I just hope Devin is an alternate. He really became sickening and unhinged his last season.

Interesting, no Rogan or Jordan or Kyle. I'd bet Rogan is honey because of Dee and Jordan is basically under temporary suspension. I'd gladly have Darrell back over those guys though. Seems like Turbo may be done as well. I bet he's now an insurance liability.



Host: TJ Lavin

Season: 36th

Tentative Location: TBA

Departure Day to start the quarentine: August 23rd

Departure Day to filming location: In more than week

Quarentine Discussion Thread

Early Speculation Thread

Potential Cast and Alternates- This list is subject to change! There will be alternates quarantining with the main cast in the event of a positive COVID-19 test.

Females

Amber Borzotra (Big Brother) - Rookie


Amber Martinez (AYTO? 8 ) - Rookie


Aneesa Ferreira (Real World: Chicago)- 14th season


Ashley Mitchell (Real World: Explosion) - 8th season


Brehanna Daniels (Titan Games) - Rookie


Jennifer "Jenny" West (Survival of the Fittest) - 3rd season



Kaycee Clarke (Big Brother 20) - 2nd season



Lori "Lolo" Jones (Olympian/The Challenge Champs vs Pros/Celebrity Big Brother) - "Rookie"



Malkamitu "Kam" Williams (AYTO? 5) - 5th Season



Morgan Lolar (Temptation Island)- Rookie



Natalie Anderson (The Amazing Race and Survivor)- Rookie



Nicole Zanatta (Real World: Skeleton)- 3rd season



Noemi "Nany" Gonzalez (Real World: Las Vegas 2)- 10th season



Olivia "Liv" Jawando (Shipwrecked UK)- Rookie



Theresa Gonzalez Jones (Fresh Meat 2)- 7th season



Tula "Big T" Fazakerley (Shipwrecked UK) - 3rd season



Victoria "Tori Deal" Dehel (AYTO? 4) - 5th season



Males

Asaf Goren (Like 10 other reality shows) - 2nd season



Christopher "CT" Tamburello (Real World: Paris) - 18th season



Connor Obrochta (Bachelorette 14, BiP 5) - Rookie



Cory Wharton (Real World: Explosion & Teen Mom OG)- 8th season



Darrell Taylor (Road Rules)- 9th season



Derrick Henry (AYTO? 5) - 3rd season and 0 elimination wins



Devin Walker ("Marie's ex)- 5th season



Faysal "Fessy" Shafaat (Big Brother)- 2nd season



John "Johnny Bananas" Devenanzio (Pornhub & Real World Key West)



Joseph Allen (American Got Talent 14)- Rookie



Josh Martinez (Big Brother) - 4th season and 0 elimination wins



Justin "Jay" Starret (Survivor)- 2nd season



Leroy Garrett (Real World: Las Vegas 2)- 12th season



Lionel "Lio Rush" Green (WWE) -Rookie



Mark Jensen (Big Brother) - Rookie



Mechie Harris (Ex on the beach US & Blacc Chyna ex)- Rookie



Nelson Thomas (AYTO? 3)- 7th season



Weston "Wes" Bergmann (Real World: Austin) - 14th season


This post was edited on 8/27/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 2:21 pm to
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Lolo Jones (I bet she quits 3 eps in)


Probably so. If she can handle the mental aspect then she's an immediate favorite, though.

quote:

Aneesa Ferreira (Real World: Chicago)- 14th season


Ugh, really wish they would move on from her.

quote:

Natalie Anderson (The Amazing Race and Survivor)- Rookie


I hated her on The Amazing Race, but she was pretty good on Survivor. She's also a ridiculous endurance athlete and would be an immediate threat, especially in a final.

quote:

Asaf Goren (Like 10 other reality shows) - 2nd season




quote:

Derrick Henry (AYTO? 5) - 3rd season and 0 elimination wins


This dude over some of the Brits is a head scratcher for me. He sucked.

quote:

John "Johnny Bananas" Devenanzio (Pornhub & Real World Key West)




quote:

Joseph Allen (American Got Talent 14)- Rookie


They're pulling from America's Got Talent now? Wow. That's not even a CBS/Viacom show.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22767 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 6:24 pm to
I don't think WWE is at all associated with CBS Viacom either.

Lolo is going to be a huge favorite physically buts she's defiently going to have a breakdown in the first 2 weeks.

She's got to be getting big $$ to go on this show. I'd bet she may even be getting as much or more than John and Wes and CT, which is probably upwards of 100K just to get on a plane. If she wins, she'll get at least another 500K.

She's going to be very timid and want to last in the game. All the girls are going to hate her. I could easily see her working with the Wes-John camp in voting.

I'd also bet the house is going to try to get John out fast again. They didn't go after as much last season and they saw where it got them. If he gets to a final, he's the odds on favorite to win..even still.

I think CT is just showing up for a paycheck now. He seems totally checked out but he cant turn down that kind of money. If he'd actually get in shape, even at 40, he could still be a force.

I think Jay is going to try to align himself with Corey/Nelson/Devin/Ashley to go further than last time. It's still pretty crazy that the show has not used the love triangle of Morgan Willett as show material. I'd bet, though, John told them that shite's off limits.

She hasn't been on the show since they began dating. I'm assuming that's on purpose. John probably will never get another chance with a girl that hot and he doesn't his relationship to crumble because of a challenge house. He's seen too many marriages, engagements, relationships, etc go bust because of it.
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