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Most pretentious movie ever - movies you used to love/but grew up and forsake
Posted on 8/30/14 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 8/30/14 at 4:29 pm
Just re-watched...Reality Bites.
I remember loving it in the 90's.
God...it is so unwatchable now. The characters...
Were the early 90's really like this? Am I forgetting stuff? I lived through it.
Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots and extensional angst with flannel as the be all and end all?
We think Saved By the Bell makes us gag...but Party of Five???
I did rewatch Singles...and, so it's not just the music...because that movie holds up.
But Reality Bites...crap I used to love this movie and now it's total b.s.
I don't know why Singles lasts...but I know why Reality Bites doesn't last...it's too much in the present and tries too hard to remain forever in the present.
Singles is very much in the present in the 90's but it has a kind of comedic reverence for pop culture in general.
Reality Bites - Ethan Hawke, Winona Ryder, Stiller...how did anyone recover?
Well, I know...Winona never recovered....
I remember loving it in the 90's.
God...it is so unwatchable now. The characters...
Were the early 90's really like this? Am I forgetting stuff? I lived through it.
Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots and extensional angst with flannel as the be all and end all?
We think Saved By the Bell makes us gag...but Party of Five???
I did rewatch Singles...and, so it's not just the music...because that movie holds up.
But Reality Bites...crap I used to love this movie and now it's total b.s.
I don't know why Singles lasts...but I know why Reality Bites doesn't last...it's too much in the present and tries too hard to remain forever in the present.
Singles is very much in the present in the 90's but it has a kind of comedic reverence for pop culture in general.
Reality Bites - Ethan Hawke, Winona Ryder, Stiller...how did anyone recover?
Well, I know...Winona never recovered....
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Posted on 8/30/14 at 4:31 pm to Zamoro10
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pretentious
I don't think you know what this word means.
The answer is Tree of Life.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 4:40 pm to TN Bhoy
I liked Tree of Life. But yeah, it's pretentious.
I used to love Reality Bites, but it really is a time capsule. You didn't even mention the AIDS panic discussed in the movie. Perfect example.
I used to love Reality Bites, but it really is a time capsule. You didn't even mention the AIDS panic discussed in the movie. Perfect example.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 4:43 pm to TN Bhoy
Well Tree of Life is up there.
But...you are being obtuse if you don't think my movie is up there.
Come on'...I know the damn definition as an English major.
I am so tired of these definition threads. Some guy logs on and wants to derail a thread because he thinks pretentious has to be overly artsy. It doesn't. It's about putting over-emphasis on things that are average real-life struggles.
If you don't think it is...fine...but pretentious applies to the movie I listed...and it's interpretation...You might think Reality Bites is real life...others don't.
That movie does everything and every mundane thing they do to make regular life of greater importance and everything they do...and their life and culture as the most important thing ever.
So...maybe you...don't get pretentious.
Because that's the definition.
Pretentious doesn't mean overly artsey.
You can have films that are really artsey and be profound and not pretentious. Your definition is quite banal.
But...you are being obtuse if you don't think my movie is up there.
Come on'...I know the damn definition as an English major.
I am so tired of these definition threads. Some guy logs on and wants to derail a thread because he thinks pretentious has to be overly artsy. It doesn't. It's about putting over-emphasis on things that are average real-life struggles.
If you don't think it is...fine...but pretentious applies to the movie I listed...and it's interpretation...You might think Reality Bites is real life...others don't.
That movie does everything and every mundane thing they do to make regular life of greater importance and everything they do...and their life and culture as the most important thing ever.
So...maybe you...don't get pretentious.
Because that's the definition.
Pretentious doesn't mean overly artsey.
You can have films that are really artsey and be profound and not pretentious. Your definition is quite banal.
This post was edited on 8/30/14 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 8/30/14 at 4:55 pm to Zamoro10
ethan hawke's character is pretty cringey, but I don't think the movie is really pretentious
Posted on 8/30/14 at 5:00 pm to Zamoro10
Avatar is a really pretentious film.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 5:17 pm to Zamoro10
I will offer a tv show
The Newsroom
Quite possibly the most pretentious peice of cinematic "art" ever put on any screen
The Newsroom
Quite possibly the most pretentious peice of cinematic "art" ever put on any screen
Posted on 8/30/14 at 5:21 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
That's an excellent pick.
I'll say In Time for a movie. Never loved it, but god what an obvious "I think I'm important" plot.
I'll say In Time for a movie. Never loved it, but god what an obvious "I think I'm important" plot.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 5:40 pm to Pilot Tiger
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ethan hawke's character is pretty cringey, but I don't think the movie is really pretentious
I think in hindsight...it might be...very.
Because we all tend to think - what is happening now is the most important thing...
And the stuff they talk about...and their "angst" in the national - let alone - global scheme - is pretty lame.
The whole movie is - look at me, my personal problems - which are frankly, privileged problems.
It's like the 20-something version of "Thirty-Something" TV show.
They over-dramatize regular mill of the shite...this is life...but they dramatize it like it was unique to them...
yeah...you will have girlfriends...and they may break up with you...and you will have to find a job...and move on...this is not unique to you. This is life.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 6:24 pm to Zamoro10
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Come on'...I know the damn definition as an English major.
I'm an English major and can say that 90% of them are among the most pretentious fricks in existence.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 6:35 pm to Zamoro10
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Come on'...I know the damn definition as an English major.
Good luck with that
Posted on 8/30/14 at 6:54 pm to TN Bhoy
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The answer is Tree of Life.
That came out a few years ago. You've grown up since than and forsaken it?
Posted on 8/30/14 at 7:07 pm to Zamoro10
It's not as pretentious as it is of its time. That's what popular culture then was like. It's a Grunge movie. Grunge fashion and Grunge music were the thing. Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains. Nirvana especially was all about "oh my angst". Reality Bites is very Nirvana. Ethan Hawke is that movie's Houston version of Kurt Cobain.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:06 am to Zamoro10
What's up with the Tree of Life hate?
Booooooooooo
Reality Bites is probably a good call, but I was a little young at the time.
Booooooooooo
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Most pretentious movie ever - movies you used to love/but grew up and forsake
Reality Bites is probably a good call, but I was a little young at the time.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:29 am to Zamoro10
I honestly can't think of a movie that fits your criteria.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 1:01 am to TN Bhoy
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Tree of Life
Haven't seen it but Thin Red Line would be a good candidate for this.
And Crash comes to mind.
And Magnolia.
And V for Vendetta.
Though to be honest none were movies I used to love, they are just movies that I thought were pretentious from the beginning and nothing has changed that thought.
And Sideways.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 1:03 am to Zamoro10
I hate when people throw around this word.
How do you know that it is pretentious unless you know that person intimately?
It's a dumb concept.
You're pretentious for thinking something is pretentious.
How do you know that it is pretentious unless you know that person intimately?
It's a dumb concept.
You're pretentious for thinking something is pretentious.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 1:06 am to Pectus
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How do you know that it is pretentious unless you know that person intimately?
That came off as pretentious.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 1:11 am to Zamoro10
loved garden state in college. rewatched it last year and wondered how the hell i liked it.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 3:50 am to Zamoro10
I love The Thin Red Line. And Badlands is probably in my top 10. But Tree of Life is the most pretentious and likely the worst film ever made. You do not like it--you can't--you just want to convince yourself you do, want to think of yourself as one who does--a superior. News for you--you are not superior-- you are inferior for not understanding just how weak you are. Tree of Life is shite. It is not subjective, but objective shite, objective excrement. If you can't smell it, that is on you, sir, that is on you. Your olfactory senses are inferior. To whose, you may ask? To motherfricking mine, for one. And two. And likely 3.
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