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re: Meet your likely new AMAZON James Bond (the IP is dead)

Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:09 am to
Posted by EatnCreaux
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2005
2476 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:09 am to
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People up in arms cause a black man or woman or gay guy might play James Bond - wtf are they supposed to do? Keep making the same movie forever?

If the franchise is tapped out, let go. What they should not do is pretend changing a couple of demographic characteristics of the main character is creative, when it is simply following the formula of so many movie failures that thought it was a creative choice.

An original effort would be a reboot to Ian Fleming's original era. The books may not translate well to modern movie goers, but capturing the era's style and technology would be far better than to simply make the main character gay without being too gay, or black without acting ghetto or overtly appealing to a stereotypical black audience. Keep the character as what the audience expects a British spy to be in the 1950s, less of a superhero, less of a supermodel, flawed, but clever with a knack for finding a way to shift the odds in his favor to survive, that relentlessly pursues his mission even though he enjoys a little pussy on the side.
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
1736 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:20 am to
Be great by me, but this is modern America. No one wants low key, well written films (it would seem).
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19309 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:30 pm to
Who’s gonna play Shaft?
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17679 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:04 pm to
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The original stories were great spy stories about the Cold War, but Dr. No and then You Only Live Twice went in for the international cabal thing and it's been, at best, slightly downhill ever since.


Wow. One of the most successful and beloved movie franchises and you got going downhill since literally the first movie.

Wow.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31348 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 7:29 am to
I’m going to choose to believe this is wishcasting. Nothing more.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83256 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 7:52 am to
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Amazon paying $1 billion makes me believe that their first Bond actor will very traditional and safe.


Guess Amazon didn’t spend much on LOTR and Wheel of Time
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19068 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:10 am to
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Amazon is gonna make me regret complaining about the casting of Craig...



Casino Royale is one of the best Bond movies ever and Craig was outstanding. The writing in the other movies he was cast in is the problem, not Craig.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22811 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 10:57 am to
The name is Bond.

Le'James Bond.
This post was edited on 6/24/25 at 5:37 pm
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
1736 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 3:05 pm to
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Wow. One of the most successful and beloved movie franchises and you got going downhill since literally the first movie.

Wow.


First movie I saw was OHMSS with Lazenby around '80 or so, then I read all of the books before seeing the previous movies. The books are great spy stories. The first films followed those stories a bit, with FRWL and Goldfinger being fairly true to the original premise. Then they started putting in lasers and spaceships and whatnot with barely a kernel of the original story in them. I think FRWL and Goldfinger are the two best, so yeah, it's been slightly downhill, at the least, from the get go. If you've read the books, and there's no reason for anyone to have done so, you're probably disappointed at a certain age with how the movies have been used, compared to the books. My hs graduation gift from my parents was a set of hardback copies of 12 of the books, and I've read several of them a few times each. And I'd argue the franchise isn't as 'beloved' as you seem to imply. No one looks at it with the same connection that they look at the Star Wars franchise or the Marvel Universe or other well known series.
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