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re: Making a Murderer - Part 2
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:37 pm to brmark70816
Posted on 10/29/18 at 7:37 pm to brmark70816
Ok, how did Avery do it?
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:21 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I asked first and he made a direct proclamation. He said he was set up. By who and how did they do it?
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:54 pm to brmark70816
I don't care who asked first. This isn't grade school.
How did Avery do it?
How did Avery do it?
Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:33 pm to LSU316
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All of this. If they don't have a bullet that proves she was killed in the garage then they don't know that she was killed in the garage. That renders the majority opinion in the En Banc 7th Circuit hearing for Dassey invalid in my opinion, because that would have been an outright lie to entrap Dassey into an involuntary confession
1. You don't know what entrap means
2. There is no rule that interrogators can't lie.
3. I believe Dassey's appeals have been completely exhausted. Somebody can correct me on that if I'm wrong.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:20 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I don't care who asked first. This isn't grade school. How did Avery do it?
I do care. I'm debating 5 against 1 and you are trying to steal my gotcha question. Which is a dick move..
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:38 am to brmark70816
Cool. I don't.
You aren't really debating anything, though. You ignore most of the points that are made and focus in on one point you think you can win. It won't work. Sorry bout it.
How did Avery do it?
You aren't really debating anything, though. You ignore most of the points that are made and focus in on one point you think you can win. It won't work. Sorry bout it.
How did Avery do it?
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:51 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Yeah, not going to work. Sad you are not able to answer. So you are deflecting..
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:53 am to brmark70816
Yes it will. You'll answer the question or you won't. I don't care which one of those you choose to do. Don't expect me not to call out your bullshite, though.
You don't want to answer because you know I'll bust your arse up...again.
You don't want to answer because you know I'll bust your arse up...again.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:56 am to brmark70816
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He said he was set up. By who and how did they do it?
Obviously a murder took place either when she was at the Avery property or right after she left. Main suspects are Steve, Bobby, and Brendan because of his questionable confession.
I think it’s entirely possible (and most likely) that the Bobby story line is the truth. I think law enforcement thought Steve was most likely given his past and wanted a conviction so badly they tampered with evidence. The “touch DNA” found on the hood latch only after getting Brendan to say it was opened. Why would Steve have opened the hood, anyway? And the large amount of DNA on the swab not no residue on the swab from the latch...
Bobby straight lying on the stand and Barb confirming that in the phone call...
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:01 am to DisplacedBuckeye
You've never done jack. I destroyed you in the last thread and will again here if I wanted. I've been intentionally civil and have tried not to provoke the points, so it doesn't turn into the name calling shite show that you are dying for it to become. That is why you are coming in with you 3 other alters trying to poke me into a fight. Its not happening..
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:07 am to brmark70816
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I destroyed you in the last thread and will again here if I wanted.
Talk about a complete lack of self-awareness. Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:23 am to brmark70816
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You've never done jack. I destroyed you in the last thread and will again here if I wanted.
I absolutely picked you apart in that thread...for several pages.
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I've been intentionally civil and have tried not to provoke the points, so it doesn't turn into the name calling shite show that you are dying for it to become.
Nonsense. I don't call people names. That's lowbrow and not something I do. Stop making shite up.
We both know why you're avoiding these points, and it isn't out of some desire for remaining civil. This discussion has been very civil. Answering questions shouldn't change that if you can keep your emotions in check.
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That is why you are coming in with you 3 other alters trying to poke me into a fight. Its not happening..
There it is. Anyone who agrees with me must be an alter. There's no way others might come to the conclusion that you don't know what you're talking about...
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:31 am to brmark70816
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You've never done jack. I destroyed you in the last thread and will again here if I wanted. I've been intentionally civil and have tried not to provoke the points, so it doesn't turn into the name calling shite show that you are dying for it to become. That is why you are coming in with you 3 other alters trying to poke me into a fight. Its not happening..
lol, what in the hell is going on in this thread?
Dassey's case for all intents and purposes is finished, unless new evidence is found.
Avery still has a chance, and I think if he can get the appellate court to grant him a new trial, I think could legitimately have a chance to get an acquittal.
I've posted various opinions in this thread as I've watched (so not with a full slate of information like most of you). I've still only made it through episode 8. My current opinion based on what I've seen and read (thanks to another poster, I came across a couple of good websites with all of the information and court documents), it was either Avery and Brendan or it was Scott and Bobby.
The primary takeaway from the show is that there are some states that do not have any sort of conviction integrity (Wisconsin being one) and you can get in a situation where they simply don't WANT to find out that they screwed up. You have people's lives at stake and they are probably more concerned about having to pay up if they ultimately find out that they screwed this guy over again.
Unfortunately, this stupid back and forth quibbling and childishness has ruined what was a good discussion about the show.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:36 am to MidnightVibe
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There is no rule that interrogators can't lie.
What? That's bullshite. So what your saying is that they can lie to him to get him to affirm the lie which leads to a false involuntary confession.....God some people are just insane.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:12 am to DisplacedBuckeye
How did Avery scrub 2 different crime scenes completely free of any trace amounts of blood?
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:14 am to LSUsmartass
Clearly because he's brilliant. He was able to meticulously clean up his trailer and the garage, but then decided to sprinkle some bones all over the place and get his blood all over the car after cleaning it up. He did it so it looked planted on purpose, see. He knew all along that this would be his defense.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:17 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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get his blood all over the car after cleaning it up.
And hide the car with two carefully placed leaf-less branches on his family's car junkyard.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:26 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Clearly because he's brilliant. He was able to meticulously clean up his trailer and the garage, but then decided to sprinkle some bones all over the place and get his blood all over the car after cleaning it up. He did it so it looked planted on purpose, see. He knew all along that this would be his defense.
I think it was clearly someone in the Dassey/Avery family who did the deed, but it's also clear to me that the way it happened and the location of the crime as told by the prosecution is not accurate.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:27 am to LSU316
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And hide the car with two carefully placed leaf-less branches on his family's car junkyard.
and then remove the license plate and hide it somewhere else on the property.
i know that these people aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, but if they are smart enough to do some of the things that the prosecution alleges, then you'd think they would be smart enough to not keep the key and license plate, miss a bullet on the floor, and leave blood in the car.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:36 am to LSU316
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And hide the car with two carefully placed leaf-less branches on his family's car junkyard.
It would've worked if God hadn't led Pam Sturm right to it as soon as she arrived.
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