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Mad Men episode intro question

Posted on 5/17/12 at 9:42 am
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 9:42 am
What is the speculation on the man falling from the building?

Is it Don or Roger later in the series really jumping off building/being pushed/etc.?

Or is it just symbolic of ups and downs of life for whoever it is?
Posted by Tactical1
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Is it Don or Roger later in the series really jumping off building/being pushed/etc.?

A fella I work with thinks this is how it will end.
Posted by Unbiased Bama Fan
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 9:45 am to
quote:

just symbolic of ups and downs of life for whoever it is?

Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:24 am to
Ah. "The falling man." I have read much speculation. Interpretations - some metaphorical, some literal. It could represent a fall from grace, but I don't see any main character as particularly virtuous. It could foreshadow someone's suicide. It could be thematic, suggesting that the show you are about to watch is about the journey of the pre-60's adult white male and the inevitability of being left behind by the world (akin to dying).
Posted by tigercross
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:25 am to
Weiner has said in interviews that it was supposed to be Harry Crane in the season 1 finale after his wife kicked him out of the house. However, they decided that was too grim and they liked Rich Sommer too much.

They have been dropping hints this season that it might happen in the future though: Sterling commenting "I'd like to throw something else out of the window", Don staring down the empty elevator shaft, etc.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:28 am to
I just thought it was homage to Hitchcock's Vertigo.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:28 am to
This writer for Salon thinks Peter Campbell may head headed for a tumble.

LINK
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:30 am to
Pete offing himself just seems to easy, especially for Mad Men standards.

I always took the intro as a metaphor of Draper free-falling through life with no control. Never took it in the literal sense of someone committing suicide.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:34 am to
Only one character matters in such a dramatic connection to the title credits...it's either Don ending it all or it's nobody. Unless the show completely shifts to being about Pete.
This post was edited on 5/17/12 at 11:35 am
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

I always took the intro as a metaphor of Draper free-falling through life with no control


This is retty much what I takeit as.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

I always took the intro as a metaphor of Draper free-falling through life with no control.


Nice take
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Nice take


I go between thinking it's either that or it's an Alice in Wonderland kind of moment as she falls down the rabbit hole.
Posted by Enigma
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 6:06 pm to
From the creators of the show:

quote:

However, "Mad Men" creators insist the comparison is nothing more than a coincidence, saying that "the image of Don Draper tumbling through space has been used since the show began in 2007 to represent a man whose life is in turmoil."


This is in response to:

LINK
Posted by Dodgson
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

I always took the intro as a metaphor of Draper free-falling through life with no control.


I agree with this. I think this was especially true back when his mysterious past was a big deal. It seemed like he was always headed towards self-destruction where the world he had created would tumble all around him.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 5/17/12 at 7:08 pm to
If the opening sequence is about the ultimate fall of Don Draper, then why has the show seemingly taken a turn and become a tale about the moral growth and tutelage of Don? Perhaps we're reading too much into the intro.
Posted by Dodgson
Member since Feb 2012
722 posts
Posted on 5/17/12 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

If the opening sequence is about the ultimate fall of Don Draper, then why has the show seemingly taken a turn and become a tale about the moral growth and tutelage of Don? Perhaps we're reading too much into the intro.


The intro doesn't just mean nothing. It is highly symbolic and interpretable. In any case, there's no guarantee that Don's moral growth will stick.
This post was edited on 5/17/12 at 7:25 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 7:46 pm to
It's a disrespectful jab at 9-11.

LINK
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

It's a disrespectful jab at 9-11.


Meh. More like people overreacting.
Posted by eleventy
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

I always took the intro as a metaphor of Draper free-falling through life with no control.


I agree with this. I think this was especially true back when his mysterious past was a big deal. It seemed like he was always headed towards self-destruction where the world he had created would tumble all around him.



I agree with this, also. The advertisements he falls past include a happy family, etc. -- things he has managed to get into his life, but could lose or "fall out" of.

I don't buy that it's anyone else. The silhouette of the guy on the couch with the cigarette is definitely Draper, per Weiner, so it follows that he's the one falling.
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