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re: Mad Men 4-15 "Signal 30"
Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:33 am to Zamoro10
Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:33 am to Zamoro10
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Pete is that character who wanted to be Don but that era for "Dons" is fading.
I think Pete has always wanted to be Don very badly, but when he gets to the "Don" moments, they don't pan out for him. Don always has what Pete thinks he wants, but it looks so much better on Don.
I agree with the previous idea that Megan will hurt Don. Somehow she seems to have his number -- knows when to push, when to give in, when to use feminine wiles on him.
The era for this particular Don will never fade, imo. He will reinvent himself to suit any environs.
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:33 am to Cold Pizza
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And am I the only 1 who thinks Don has adapted well and is relatively happy? He hates the burbs, but lives in the city. Megan pushes him to do stuff, but not that hard.
I think he is too, and its starting to really piss me off that now that his personal life is pretty well sorted he doesn't turn his attention to his floundering business.
He's the paycheck around there, and he isn't doing anything. I think we'll start to see some workplace dissension on that point in the coming weeks. It may have started last night with Ken and Peggy clearly having discussed jumping ship already.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 12:38 pm to yungtigr
Don choking and killing that slut now makes sense after Don refused a hooker last night.
I think metaphorically that was Don unconsciously killing his old self - he was the slut who could never say no. And as we all know, Don has a history of killing off his old selves only to re-invent himself.
I think metaphorically that was Don unconsciously killing his old self - he was the slut who could never say no. And as we all know, Don has a history of killing off his old selves only to re-invent himself.
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 2:34 pm to Zamoro10
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 4:35 pm to Zamoro10
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Pete has never been faithful and it just might be he starts "becoming" Don and replacing him as the major focus. Young vs. Old; Don's story arc just seems near the end of the line...how much more recycled conflict can you give to Don?
Pete could never be Don. He's about 1/5th as handsome and 1/5th as suave. He's good at his job - that's it.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 6:07 pm to Zamoro10
"I have nothing, Don"
He was breaking up at the end, but it's fairly clear. The line was a summation of his feelings developed throughout the episode and like a confession to the one person admires.
He was breaking up at the end, but it's fairly clear. The line was a summation of his feelings developed throughout the episode and like a confession to the one person admires.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 6:30 pm to Cold Pizza
"There were phrases of Beethoven's ninth symphony that made Coe cry. He always thought it had to do with the circumstances of the composition itself. He imagined Beethoven deaf and soul sick, his heart broken, scribbling furiously while death stood in the doorway clipping his nails. Still, Coe thought, it might have been living in the country that was making him cry. It was killing him with it's silence and loneliness, making everything ordinary too beautiful to bear."
Pretty clear it's about Pete from the content and imagery. Cosgrove's writing is evolving from stories about himself ( the robot who can't control anything except turning the bolt ) to the others.
Pretty clear it's about Pete from the content and imagery. Cosgrove's writing is evolving from stories about himself ( the robot who can't control anything except turning the bolt ) to the others.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 6:59 pm to minimal
Pete is representing the in-betweeners IMO which is what makes him so compelling.
He wanted to be like his idols Don but he was sort of too young for that generation...now he's too old for the younger generation.
I think he feels like he slipped through the cracks and doesn't know where he belongs. With his wife all set-up like a 50's housewife out in the country...he's isolated like a museum piece...a boy who wanted to be a part of the club and now that club is too old...but he's not young enough.
Cosgrove's writing was all about Pete - the composition of his life - and the circumstances have always made him just not quite fit in. He mentioned he waited years for Don to finally come over to his house for dinner...and now that he has - Don is a changed man, gotten wiser and moved on. Pete takes a whore - he's playing catchup to Don - but the game has changed...and then he stares at that young couple in his driving class and feels like the old man...he can't be a part of their culture and the old culture is now deaf to his wants and Pete is soul sick.
He wanted to be like his idols Don but he was sort of too young for that generation...now he's too old for the younger generation.
I think he feels like he slipped through the cracks and doesn't know where he belongs. With his wife all set-up like a 50's housewife out in the country...he's isolated like a museum piece...a boy who wanted to be a part of the club and now that club is too old...but he's not young enough.
Cosgrove's writing was all about Pete - the composition of his life - and the circumstances have always made him just not quite fit in. He mentioned he waited years for Don to finally come over to his house for dinner...and now that he has - Don is a changed man, gotten wiser and moved on. Pete takes a whore - he's playing catchup to Don - but the game has changed...and then he stares at that young couple in his driving class and feels like the old man...he can't be a part of their culture and the old culture is now deaf to his wants and Pete is soul sick.
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:44 pm to Zamoro10
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Pete is representing the in-betweeners IMO which is what makes him so compelling.
He wanted to be like his idols Don but he was sort of too young for that generation...now he's too old for the younger generation.
I think he feels like he slipped through the cracks and doesn't know where he belongs. With his wife all set-up like a 50's housewife out in the country...he's isolated like a museum piece...a boy who wanted to be a part of the club and now that club is too old...but he's not young enough.
Cosgrove's writing was all about Pete - the composition of his life - and the circumstances have always made him just not quite fit in. He mentioned he waited years for Don to finally come over to his house for dinner...and now that he has - Don is a changed man, gotten wiser and moved on. Pete takes a whore - he's playing catchup to Don - but the game has changed...and then he stares at that young couple in his driving class and feels like the old man...he can't be a part of their culture and the old culture is now deaf to his wants and Pete is soul sick.
this was amazing to read.Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:51 pm to Zamoro10
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Pete is representing the in-betweeners IMO which is what makes him so compelling.
He wanted to be like his idols Don but he was sort of too young for that generation...now he's too old for the younger generation.
I think he feels like he slipped through the cracks and doesn't know where he belongs. With his wife all set-up like a 50's housewife out in the country...he's isolated like a museum piece...a boy who wanted to be a part of the club and now that club is too old...but he's not young enough.
Cosgrove's writing was all about Pete - the composition of his life - and the circumstances have always made him just not quite fit in. He mentioned he waited years for Don to finally come over to his house for dinner...and now that he has - Don is a changed man, gotten wiser and moved on. Pete takes a whore - he's playing catchup to Don - but the game has changed...and then he stares at that young couple in his driving class and feels like the old man...he can't be a part of their culture and the old culture is now deaf to his wants and Pete is soul sick.
WOW
This show is brilliant. 
Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:40 pm to CP3LSU25
He imagined Beethoven, deaf and soul-sick, his heart broken, scribbling furiously while death stood in the doorway, clipping his nails. Still, Coe thought, it might have been living in the country that was making him cry. It was killing him with its silence and loneliness, making everything ordinary too beautiful to bear.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 11:04 pm to dr smartass phd
Best episode of the season. Brilliant.
And the water dripping at the end
And the water dripping at the end
Posted on 4/17/12 at 12:49 am to Zamoro10
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Cosgrove's writing was all about Pete - the composition of his life - and the circumstances have always made him just not quite fit in. He mentioned he waited years for Don to finally come over to his house for dinner...and now that he has - Don is a changed man, gotten wiser and moved on. Pete takes a whore - he's playing catchup to Don - but the game has changed...and then he stares at that young couple in his driving class and feels like the old man...he can't be a part of their culture and the old culture is now deaf to his wants and Pete is soul sick.
Yeah, Pete was like a little kid when Don came in his house. He wanted to grab the toolbox and help Don fix the sink like a kid helping his dad. Also, Pete kept showing off his record player to Don and Cosgrove. He told Cosgrove, "I keep expecting to open the doors and see a tiny orchestra in there." The title of Cosgrove's story was "The Man with the Mini Orchestra".
Posted on 4/17/12 at 2:30 am to geaux4tigers
This article was written 2 1/2 weeks ago. It suggest that Pete is the falling man from the opening credits, and proposes we shall see his ultimate demise some time this season. It's a rather long and detailed article that makes many interesting allegorical connections between language and circumstances on the show and Pete's potential inevitable fall.
As far as last Sunday night's episode is concerned, I thought it was easily the best of the season so far and probably a top 5 Mad Men episode all told. It had the perfect balance of questions asked and answered, addressed some serious issues.. political, social and personal, and mixed in great comic relief (mostly via Roger - who absolutely shined in this episode).
As far as last Sunday night's episode is concerned, I thought it was easily the best of the season so far and probably a top 5 Mad Men episode all told. It had the perfect balance of questions asked and answered, addressed some serious issues.. political, social and personal, and mixed in great comic relief (mostly via Roger - who absolutely shined in this episode).
Posted on 4/17/12 at 9:13 am to Rohan2Reed
Roger: "I know cooler heads should prevail, buuut am I the only one who wants to see this?"
Posted on 4/17/12 at 9:20 am to MStant1
Yeah, I highly suspect they kill off a main character this year in one of the last episodes of the season. Pete, Joan or Peggy. It will happen right at the end of the episode and it will be the most epic TV scene since "Who shot JR."
Can't hardly fricking wait.
Can't hardly fricking wait.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 9:28 am to Rohan2Reed
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This article was written 2 1/2 weeks ago. It suggest that Pete is the falling man from the opening credits, and proposes we shall see his ultimate demise some time this season. It's a rather long and detailed article that makes many interesting allegorical connections between language and circumstances on the show and Pete's potential inevitable fall.
Ok, wow that article is ridiculous. I don't necessarily disagree that a main character could be dead by the end of the season (given how much death has been a central premise of the season), but wow that article reads WAY too much into every little detail that doesn't even support his thesis.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 10:21 am to MStant1
Damn this show has a lot of commercials.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:07 am to FalseProphet
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bullshite. Pete is finally a man.
I don't know how you got that. The whole episode showed Pete trying to be a man but failing.
1) He is henpecked by his wife and he can't stand up to her. Don even mentions on the phone that Pete's wife is a better closer and salesman than Pete.
2) He couldn't fix the sink and looked like a child fumbling through his toolbox as Don fixed the sink.
3) He slept with a prostitute trying to feel like a man.
4) He had feelings for an under aged girl because he doesn't have what it takes to impress girls his own age.
5) He felt physically inferior to the high school student.
6) He lost a fight to a man at least twice his age who is not physically imposing.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 12:43 pm to MStant1
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Roger: "I know cooler heads should prevail, buuut am I the only one who wants to see this?"
Roger (John Slattery) directed the episode.
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