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Late to the show: Finally watched Haunting of Hill House
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:18 am
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:18 am
Holy hell what a wild ride. Might be one of my favorite mini series maybe ever. Hell, maybe one of my favorite pieces of media, tv or movie, period. Flanagan did an incredible job. Had a shite ton more emotion than I thought it would have. The finale in particular had me drying my eyes quite a few times.
Directing, acting, the non linear story telling, which in my opinion, when done right, is more impactful than just straight linear. The cinematography. The suspense. The lack of jump scares and just the reliance on good ole fashioned creepy shite. I never ventured into the threads about this so I can’t recall how the board reacted to the show. What did y’all think?
Directing, acting, the non linear story telling, which in my opinion, when done right, is more impactful than just straight linear. The cinematography. The suspense. The lack of jump scares and just the reliance on good ole fashioned creepy shite. I never ventured into the threads about this so I can’t recall how the board reacted to the show. What did y’all think?
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:23 am to WicKed WayZ
It was great, and definitely agree about the emotion involved. Not only good horror, just great all around story telling.
How about that one jump scare in the car? Damn near shite myself.
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The lack of jump scares
How about that one jump scare in the car? Damn near shite myself.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:25 am to ReedRothchild
God damn you’re right. That one got me good.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:28 am to WicKed WayZ
A wonderful, extremely emotional series that explores death, grief, loss. The kids somewhat personify the five stages of grief. And as tragic as it was, it still felt like a happy ending.
I enjoyed a rewatch recently, and the funny thing is that much of the “scary” stuff on first watch isn’t actually frightening when you know the whole story. And much of the mundane stuff you miss initially is much more frightening on rewatch.
I enjoyed a rewatch recently, and the funny thing is that much of the “scary” stuff on first watch isn’t actually frightening when you know the whole story. And much of the mundane stuff you miss initially is much more frightening on rewatch.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:31 am to WicKed WayZ
It really was fantastic. I also appreciated how the episodes were homages to classic horror directors/writers.
The episode, The Two Storms, where it's one big long shot of the Cranes in the funeral parlor is one of my favorite TV episodes in a long time. The Hitchcockian style was great.
The episode, The Two Storms, where it's one big long shot of the Cranes in the funeral parlor is one of my favorite TV episodes in a long time. The Hitchcockian style was great.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:35 am to BluegrassBelle
After watching it, I can totally see why Flanagan was chosen to do Doctor Sleep. So much of the show, to me, felt like an homage to The Shining
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:38 am to WicKed WayZ
Yeah, Doctor Sleep was really good as well. I'll watch anything Flanagan puts out going forward.
Although I did not like Bly Manor, I got bored with it and never finished.
Midnight Mass is pretty damn good too, if you haven't seen that one.
Although I did not like Bly Manor, I got bored with it and never finished.
Midnight Mass is pretty damn good too, if you haven't seen that one.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:44 am to ReedRothchild
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Although I did not like Bly Manor, I got bored with it and never finished.
Bly Manor was definitely a step down from Hill House. I think it ended okay, but beginning was very slow.
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Midnight Mass is pretty damn good too, if you haven't seen that one.
Definitely worth watching. Fantastic.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:49 am to ReedRothchild
I will also watch anything he does. I enjoyed midnight club, though I don’t think I ever read any Christopher Pike books. But I also like my horror to make me feel sad. He’s doing Poe next year and I’m really excited for it.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 11:50 am
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:07 pm to Aspercel
This is one I've had in "My List" for a long time, just never pulled the trigger on watching it.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:22 pm to Aspercel
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Christopher Pike
man, there's a name i havent heard since middle school. does he still write stuff? does he do adult fiction as well?
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:25 pm to WicKed WayZ
I screamed out loud at the jump scare with the sisters in the car toward the end. I’ve never jumped that bad in my life. Excellent show.
The ghosts in the background that you have to look for really make that show stand apart from other horror shows/movies for me.
The ghosts in the background that you have to look for really make that show stand apart from other horror shows/movies for me.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:34 pm to WicKed WayZ
Yes, that was an excellent series. The episode "Screaming Meemies" was wild as frick to me and the whole thing was well done. I need to do a re-watch soon
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:37 pm to CocomoLSU
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This is one I've had in "My List" for a long time, just never pulled the trigger on watching it.
I mean this was me since the show came out but I finally convinced the wife to watch it. You won’t regret it man.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:41 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The Hitchcockian style was great
But seriously, I think y’all have convinced me to start this one. Been in my list for awhile and I’m a fan of Flanagan so no good reason not to
Posted on 11/3/22 at 2:05 pm to WicKed WayZ
The one thing that disappointed me is that Flanagan debunked a cool theory by the actor who played Luke that would have left the ending open to a more sinister interpretation...
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Oliver Jackson-Cohen posited a theory that the Crain children could really still be trapped in the Red Room. His theory comes from a tiny detail in the final scene, where Luke's red cake could hint that the family never escaped that goddamn house.
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Flanagan's response:
I’ve said a lot about the ending, and I’m reluctant to say more. I like that people are able to put their own spin on things, so I’m not eager to take that away from them ...
In this case, though, the ending can be read at face value ... If they’re still in the Red Room, it robs Hugh’s sacrifice [and the show itself] of any meaning. For me, it ends exactly as it appears to.
Hugh is dead, Nell is dead, Olivia is still dead. I always looked at it as just having a hint of peace, just a glimpse into the fact that life goes on, and there’s some acceptance for the surviving characters. Acceptance, peace and a little forgiveness doesn’t lessen the loss they experience in that episode; it only shows that life has a way of going on, and that these characters are finally accepting of that.
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 2:23 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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I dont see how that can be disappointing. After everything they had gone through, for them to still be trapped in the Red Room would just destroy the emotional impact and payoff the last fifteen or so minutes had. The remaining Crain children deserved happiness. Hell, the audience itself deserved a somewhat happy ending. You can't ask an audience to go through the amount of emotional journey and pain with those characters just to take it back. It's bad storytelling. Hugh dying in the house was the ultimate sacrifice. He HAD to in order for the house to relinquish its control not only in the final episode and release the kids from the room but for it to leave them alone the rest of their lives and let them live in peace. He still probably could have found a way to get them out and he probably really wanted to because he wanted to spend more time with them but the house would still torment them and ultimately probably lure them back. With Hugh and Nell there, the house has some light in the terrifying darkness
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 11/3/22 at 2:46 pm to WicKed WayZ
Flanagan is the best doing it right now in the horror genre.
The two series where he wrote and directed every episode (Hill House and Midnight Mass) are just fantastic and can be watched over and over
His features are great too. I rewatched Hush the other night and its still impactful.
Oculus is down right vicious and is up there with Hill House for me.
The two series where he wrote and directed every episode (Hill House and Midnight Mass) are just fantastic and can be watched over and over
His features are great too. I rewatched Hush the other night and its still impactful.
Oculus is down right vicious and is up there with Hill House for me.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 2:56 pm to WicKed WayZ
SPOILERS (for this show and The Mist).........
I strongly disagree. The Mist (2007) has one of the most heart-wrenching endings in at least the last 20 years, and it was absolutely the right call. That movie would hit completely differently if it had a "happy" ending. It's okay for horror movies/shows to have sad endings, and I much prefer a sad ending to a happy ending when it comes to horror.
But that's irrelevant because what I was saying is that I'm disappointed that Flanagan debunked the theory. Let people interpret it however they want. That way, you can have your happy ending, and I can have my sad ending.
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You can't ask an audience to go through the amount of emotional journey and pain with those characters just to take it back. It's bad storytelling.
I strongly disagree. The Mist (2007) has one of the most heart-wrenching endings in at least the last 20 years, and it was absolutely the right call. That movie would hit completely differently if it had a "happy" ending. It's okay for horror movies/shows to have sad endings, and I much prefer a sad ending to a happy ending when it comes to horror.
But that's irrelevant because what I was saying is that I'm disappointed that Flanagan debunked the theory. Let people interpret it however they want. That way, you can have your happy ending, and I can have my sad ending.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 11/3/22 at 3:41 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
The journey the characters went through in the Mist is completely different than the one in Hill House. And I never said endings had to be happy. It’s all to serve the story. The ending in the Mist made sense for the story and it’s characters
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