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Knives Out should have been a series, not a movie
Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:03 pm
The title says it all. It’s a thought that just occurred to me.
While I had other problems with certain aspects of the show, perhaps most prominent was that there were several interesting characters criminally under-used/developed. It probably would have been impossible to get that cast to commit to even one full season, but ideally I think that’s what the story needed.
I wanted to know more about Benoit’s previous cases/history, Linda’s relationship with her father/company (really just more of her, period), more examples of Ransom being the spoiled trust fund baby, and perhaps more interactions of the entire cast with Harlan prior to his death.
What do you think? Thirsty for more, as well? Two hours was enough?
While I had other problems with certain aspects of the show, perhaps most prominent was that there were several interesting characters criminally under-used/developed. It probably would have been impossible to get that cast to commit to even one full season, but ideally I think that’s what the story needed.
I wanted to know more about Benoit’s previous cases/history, Linda’s relationship with her father/company (really just more of her, period), more examples of Ransom being the spoiled trust fund baby, and perhaps more interactions of the entire cast with Harlan prior to his death.
What do you think? Thirsty for more, as well? Two hours was enough?
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:05 pm to Decisions
It was perfect as in. I don’t need a series detailing every aspect of every character. It was a great ensemble effort as is.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:20 pm to Decisions
I can see what you are saying, however i think it was good as it was.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:24 pm to Decisions
its perfect as is.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:24 pm to Decisions
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. It probably would have been impossible to get that cast to commit to even one full season,
And there it is. The cast was littered with Academy Award nominees (and I’m sure some winners) and the 2 main characters were the current Captain America and James Bond. The characters were interesting because of the actors playing them, and there’s no way these movie stars were gonna commit to an ensemble series. It was amazing they all signed up for this quirky little movie to begin with.
That said, I could definitely go for some more of Daniel Craig’s Foghorn Leghorn, Southern Sherlock Holmes. He was fricking hilarious.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:34 pm to Decisions
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Knives Out should have been a series, not a movie
We all know how that would have gone:
And yes, they should have developed and involved a few of the other characters more.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:06 pm to Hot Carl
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It was amazing they all signed up for this quirky little movie to begin with.
No doubt.
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I could definitely go for some more of Daniel Craig’s Foghorn Leghorn, Southern Sherlock Holmes. He was fricking hilarious.
Right? He nailed it. I wish he would do a spinoff of that character after Bond ends.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:08 pm to Decisions
SPOILERS
So I actually loved the movie because whodunnits are great, but the times I’ve thought about it since seeing it in the theater, did anyone else feel like old man Thromby was kind of a dick for disinheriting them??
I mean, his family wasn’t really all that terrible. It’s not like they were assholes that wanted nothing to do with him or tried to have him committed to get control over his money or anything.
Other than Evans, who was just a typical trust fund playboy before he was told he was being taken out of the will, the others were actually functioning adults that seemed to have a lot of respect and love for him.
Shannon’s character devoted his life to his dad’s company and was just trying to expand the business, not doing anything shady or trying to steal power from him. He may have been a bit disappointed that he didn’t go out on his own but that doesn’t justify leaving him out imo.
JLC was the exact opposite, and went out on her own and became very successful, but still always showed love and respect for him. She may have traded a bit on the family name, and he was obviously not a fan of her husband, but they seemed to have a very warm relationship and their bond actually ended up giving her the clue she needed to discover his message. So why leave her out??
Collette wasn’t blood and he caught her misappropriating funds, so I can see cutting her out, but not his granddaughter, his deceased son’s only child. She didn’t do anything to be left out.
Other than just being kind of annoying and average family bickering, they seem to be a pretty tight family that spends a lot of time together.
Shannon’s character even tells Marta that the family will take care of her because of how much he appreciated her taking such good care of his dad. That actually makes Marta’s actions seem shitty as well and one of the reasons I kept suspecting she was not as pure as she put on.
I know he said he was doing it to help them, and it’s his right to do whatever he wants, but that’s fricking bullshite for a parent to completely leave them nothing imo. Even if he wanted to leave most of it to someone else or charity, it didn’t have to be absolutely nothing to his actual blood relations.
The film does a great job of making us suspect and dislike them to create the mystery, but afterwards once we know what actually happened I just see the kids as innocents and getting screwed for no reason.
I assume many will disagree, but that’s how it’s settled with me as I’ve thought on it more. I’d love to hear why the kids were worse than I’m giving them credit for.
Perhaps in a series like OP suggests there would have been more time to rationalize his drastic step.
So I actually loved the movie because whodunnits are great, but the times I’ve thought about it since seeing it in the theater, did anyone else feel like old man Thromby was kind of a dick for disinheriting them??
I mean, his family wasn’t really all that terrible. It’s not like they were assholes that wanted nothing to do with him or tried to have him committed to get control over his money or anything.
Other than Evans, who was just a typical trust fund playboy before he was told he was being taken out of the will, the others were actually functioning adults that seemed to have a lot of respect and love for him.
Shannon’s character devoted his life to his dad’s company and was just trying to expand the business, not doing anything shady or trying to steal power from him. He may have been a bit disappointed that he didn’t go out on his own but that doesn’t justify leaving him out imo.
JLC was the exact opposite, and went out on her own and became very successful, but still always showed love and respect for him. She may have traded a bit on the family name, and he was obviously not a fan of her husband, but they seemed to have a very warm relationship and their bond actually ended up giving her the clue she needed to discover his message. So why leave her out??
Collette wasn’t blood and he caught her misappropriating funds, so I can see cutting her out, but not his granddaughter, his deceased son’s only child. She didn’t do anything to be left out.
Other than just being kind of annoying and average family bickering, they seem to be a pretty tight family that spends a lot of time together.
Shannon’s character even tells Marta that the family will take care of her because of how much he appreciated her taking such good care of his dad. That actually makes Marta’s actions seem shitty as well and one of the reasons I kept suspecting she was not as pure as she put on.
I know he said he was doing it to help them, and it’s his right to do whatever he wants, but that’s fricking bullshite for a parent to completely leave them nothing imo. Even if he wanted to leave most of it to someone else or charity, it didn’t have to be absolutely nothing to his actual blood relations.
The film does a great job of making us suspect and dislike them to create the mystery, but afterwards once we know what actually happened I just see the kids as innocents and getting screwed for no reason.
I assume many will disagree, but that’s how it’s settled with me as I’ve thought on it more. I’d love to hear why the kids were worse than I’m giving them credit for.
Perhaps in a series like OP suggests there would have been more time to rationalize his drastic step.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:36 pm to Athos
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It was perfect as in. I don’t need a series detailing every aspect of every character. It was a great ensemble effort as is.
Agreed. I wasn't going to see it just because I didn't want to support Johnson, but a girl wanted to see it and so I went and enjoyed it thoroughly. Definitely one of the better movies I saw last year.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:39 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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I’d love to hear why the kids were worse than I’m giving them credit for.
I actually tend to agree with your perspectives on this. Everyone but Evans and Collette were good people and didn’t deserve to be cut out. JLC would deal with her husband in her own time, and the granddaughter was mostly fine.
This honestly touches on one of my problems with the movie. I couldn’t side with the caretaker getting it all. It felt contrived and implausible. Give her something, sure, but not everything.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:17 am to Decisions
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Give her something, sure, but not everything
see - i disagree with that - the caregiver was the only person there that was not greedy, self entitled assholes that were always expecting everything handed to them - instead of trying to earn it themselves. Thromby got tired of the entitlement, and cut them out of their share.
and he was proven right when they all started turning on the caregiver and badgering her about the money and possessions.
I grew up with family that way - and their kids are total shite heads because of it. was glad to see the kids get fricked over on the money.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:35 am to CBandits82
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its perfect as is.
Perfect? Cmon
Posted on 2/22/20 at 8:52 am to Thracken13
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the caregiver was the only person there that was not greedy, self entitled assholes that were always expecting everything handed to them - instead of trying to earn it themselves.
Can you give examples of this?
Like I said, other than Evans, none of the blood relations were any of those things you said.
JLC is a massively successful real estate mogul, something that has nothing to do with Thromby.
And Shannon worked for his father’s company and has been trying to grow the business by selling the movie rights. Yeah he is mostly benefiting from his dad’s work, but he doesn’t seem to be greedy or entitled, seems to work hard, and he’s very respectful of his father and just seems to want his respect and approval. He also tells Marta the family will make sure she’s taken care of.
And the granddaughter obviously did nothing wrong.
Don Johnson and Collette are shady, but they also aren’t family. They are in laws.
I think you’re falling victim to the skill of the director in creating the mystery. There is a vague sense of mistrust and purposeful dislike of these characters we get watching the movie. But that’s because the director is trying to create doubt about each of them so that everyone is a suspect.
But once the truth is revealed, when you go back and look at each character you see the events as nothing more than typical family squabbles rather than some sinister motivations or schemes.
I just don’t see how a parent could ever blindside their children like that “to help them”, when they really didn’t do anything to deserve it. At least tell them what you’re doing and give them your reasons.
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and he was proven right when they all started turning on the caregiver and badgering her about the money and possessions.
You have to understand, it’s not like he said I’m giving all my money to charity.
When a “caregiver” is unexpectedly given a windfall like that at the expense of the family, there is a natural reaction to suspect foul play, and wonder if there was some undue influence on an aging family member.
Making sure a loved one wasn’t manipulated isn’t “badgering” imo. Yeah there is obviously a personal interest, but again that could have been solved by telling the children ahead of time and dealing with the fallout rather than blindsiding them after he was dead.
This post was edited on 2/22/20 at 8:55 am
Posted on 2/22/20 at 3:57 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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did anyone else feel like old man Thromby was kind of a dick for disinheriting them??
I got the impression he was probably kind of a dick regardless most of their lives. And he resented the constant, disingenuous arse-kissing they all did to stay in his good graces strictly for the inheritance. He saw through that. They were all fricking terrible. I actually think he had the most respect for Chris Evans because he was actually real, knew his whole family was terrible and didn’t give a frick.
I do agree that giving his fortune to charity would have made more real-world sense than his young care-taker, but that was the main thing that drove the plot. There wouldn’t have been a movie if he gave it to cancer research.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 4:50 pm to Hot Carl
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And there it is. The cast was littered with Academy Award nominees (and I’m sure some winners) and the 2 main characters were the current Captain America and James Bond.
Craziest thing is that with an unbelievable superstar-laden cast, the lead character in the movie was played by the hot girl from Knock Knock.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 5:23 pm to Decisions
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I could definitely go for some more of Daniel Craig’s Foghorn Leghorn, Southern Sherlock Holmes. He was fricking hilarious.
Right? He nailed it. I wish he would do a spinoff of that character after Bond ends.
I'm pretty sure he's getting a spin off
Posted on 2/22/20 at 6:53 pm to Parmen
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frick Rian Johnson.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:24 pm to Decisions
quote:'Knives Out' Sequel in the Works, Story to Center on Daniel Craig's Detective Character
Knives Out should have been a series, not a movie
I also read somewhere that Johnson envisioned this as at least a trilogy and Benoit is his Hercule Poirot.
Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:38 pm to buckeye_vol
This should make everyone happy.
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Johnson, who directed 2017's Star Wars: The Last Jedi, is also developing a new Star Wars trilogy
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