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Just finished American Psycho for the first time

Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:14 am
Posted by The Future
Smallville, KS
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Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:14 am
WTF?

My mind is fricked....so Bateman killed all the people right? Or did he just dream or fantasize he did?

He said "my confession has meant nothing" at the end, was it just because no one believed him?
Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:18 am to
he imagined it all......i think
Posted by The Future
Smallville, KS
Member since Oct 2009
22661 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:25 am to
I googled it and there seems to be a lot of theories, with most settling on imagination.

What's the deal with the investigator? Does he even exist?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 2:26 am to
It was all probably just a coke induced dream.
Posted by JombieZombie
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Posted on 3/29/12 at 3:42 am to
It was all a fantasy due to his ego and inferiority about not "fitting in."
Posted by brewhan davey
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Posted on 3/29/12 at 4:16 am to
quote:

It was all a fantasy due to his ego and inferiority about not "fitting in."


correct
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
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Posted on 3/29/12 at 5:55 am to
it's up to you to decide, but I believe signs point to him imagining all his killings.

It's deliberately ambiguous though
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 6:49 am to
no he didn't.. hence his secretary finding his drawings.. and paul was fine..
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 3/29/12 at 7:04 am to
I haven't seen this in years, and have only seen it once. Need to rewatch it to remember what I thought the first time I saw it, but I believe I thought it was made up as well...mainly because there would be no way he could simply walk away from everything untouched.

Reading the ploy synopsis on Wiki, it seems pretty clear that he was imagining all of the chaos. The most clear example in the synopsis was when he returns to Paul's apartment and everything is cleaned up (there are no bodies or blood) and it is for sale.

Also, "Patrick Bateman" may be his alter ego that exists in his mind, since he was mistaken several times for other people by his coworkers.

Reading up on all of this is making me want to go back and watch the movie again..
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 7:06 am to
the director of the movie is confusing me tho.. she says as far as she is concerned.. he was not making it all up in his head..

so i just don't get it.. but watching it a 2nd time i could have sworn it was all made up in his mind..

LINK

watch the last video.. about 12 minutes in.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
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74020 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 7:14 am to
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the director of the movie is confusing me tho.. she says as far as she is concerned.. he was not making it all up in his head..
honestly, IDGAF what the "director" says, it's B.E.E's story

I know it's deliberately made ambiguous though
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 3/29/12 at 7:40 am to
quote:


My mind is fricked....so Bateman killed all the people right? Or did he just dream or fantasize he did?

He said "my confession has meant nothing" at the end, was it just because no one believed him?



He really did kill all those people.

The theme throughout the whole movie is how narcissistic these business men are. So for him to have an accidental alibi due to a mix up with names/faces by his coworkers only proves the point.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/29/12 at 7:48 am to
quote:

The theme throughout the whole movie is how narcissistic these business men are. So for him to have an accidental alibi due to a mix up with names/faces by his coworkers only proves the point.

I agree with this.

Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
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Posted on 3/29/12 at 7:52 am to
quote:

The theme throughout the whole movie is how narcissistic these business men are. So for him to have an accidental alibi due to a mix up with names/faces by his coworkers only proves the point.

While I do agree that the basic point is that the yuppie society is so vain they wouldn't even notice something like mass murders, I don't think it's realistic to believe he got away with it.

Who cleaned the apartment?

Are we to assume that some of the murders were real and some of them were his imagination?
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 3/29/12 at 7:57 am to
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Who cleaned the apartment?



Weren't people going to be moving in there? Probably the owners that needed the money and just got it cleaned to move in the next resident.


quote:

While I do agree that the basic point is that the yuppie society is so vain they wouldn't even notice something like mass murders,


They wouldn't notice. They are too wrapped up in themselves. Like I said the only thing that cleared him was a mistaken alibi. That's all it took.


quote:

Are we to assume that some of the murders were real and some of them were his imagination?



I guess some could be imagined. Like the girls he has sex with and the one he drops the chainsaw on. But Jared Leto's murder is real. That's why there's police questioning involved.
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Posted by Jizzamo311
Member since Dec 2008
6504 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 8:16 am to
I always thought Bateman was just a neurotic coke head yuppie with severe schizophrenia that creates this other person in his mind"Paul Allen" and strives to compete with him, which starts his spiraling out of control and along the way murders several people...All in his mind of course
Posted by Nick Papa Georgio
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/29/12 at 8:28 am to
It is however you want to take it.

The point is that Bateman (a walking talking metaphor for 80s Wall Street yuppie culture) is disillusion. His narcissism has taken over his understanding of reality...

If you want to believe he did it, you can... But I'm pretty sure B.E.E didn't intend for you to think so.

If you were intrigued by it, read the book. It is incredibly well written and 10,000x 's more fricked up than the movie.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
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156509 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Weren't people going to be moving in there? Probably the owners that needed the money and just got it cleaned to move in the next resident.

So no big deal that there were bodies everywhere and blood all over the walls in the apartment? The owners just cleaned all of that and let it slide? Nah..
quote:

But Jared Leto's murder is real. That's why there's police questioning involved.

What about the coworker that said he actually had lunch with Paul in London (where Bateman was allegedly lying about Paul being)?
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74020 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 8:40 am to
quote:

So no big deal that there were bodies everywhere and blood all over the walls in the apartment? The owners just cleaned all of that and let it slide? Nah..
I can see how the point could be made that the society was SOOOO disconnected from reality, that they just cleaned it all up and rushed to get the place cleaned and on the market

quote:

What about the coworker that said he actually had lunch with Paul in London (where Bateman was allegedly lying about Paul being)?
I could also see how this goes along with Paul calling Patrick, Marcus. People confuse people for other people


I still think it was imagined though
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71117 posts
Posted on 3/29/12 at 9:04 am to
LINK

Best scene in the movie.
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