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Jaws.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 7:47 am
Posted on 9/2/17 at 7:47 am
Not my favorite film, but definitely a near flawless perfect film that continues to hold up well today. And I'm not talking about how fake the shark looks. I think the best scenes are when you don't even see the shark. Just the music, the first person view of the shark swimming in the water, the dialogue between the characters especially Quint, etc. Just a masterpiece.
Robert Shaw as Quint is definitely the best cast role in the film.
Robert Shaw as Quint is definitely the best cast role in the film.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 7:59 am to Parmen
The dialog between Quint and Hooper was fantastic. So much of it was not even written, just the body chemistry was fantastic
One of the all time greats..
One of the all time greats..
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:03 am to LanierSpots
That one shark swallowed a Louisiana license plate.
Chief Brody: "He didn't eat a car, did he?"
Chief Brody: "He didn't eat a car, did he?"
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:06 am to LanierSpots
It wasn't chemistry. Robert Shaw and Richard Dreyfus hated each other.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:16 am to athenslife101
Rapper Ice Cube says it's in his top 5. That oughta tell you how far reaching it is with everyone.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:18 am to athenslife101
"Hooper! Ya idiot! Starboard! Ain't cha watchin' it?!"
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:32 am to athenslife101
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It wasn't chemistry. Robert Shaw and Richard Dreyfus hated each other.
True but it was chemistry on film..
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:33 am to Parmen
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the dialogue between the characters especially Quint
If memory serves me, and it's been awhile since I saw the documentary on the making of Jaws, but the entire USS Indianapolis dialogue was dictated over the phone to Spielberg by a writer the night before the scene was shot.
One of the few movies I can watch over and over again.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:57 am to Erin Go Bragh
quote:several times a year I pull up that scene and watch it - robert shaw just nailed that scene. his knocking on the table as he's recounting the story, the devilish smile masking some deep pain, just everything. awesome awesome scene.
, but the entire USS Indianapolis dialogue was dictated over the phone to Spielberg by a writer the night before the scene was shot.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 9:07 am to Parmen
It was originally and remains an awesome movie.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 9:26 am to athenslife101
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Robert Shaw and Richard Dreyfus hated each other.
It makes sense.
Robert Shaw come from an old school, hard-working generation whereas Dreyfus was this pretentious little prick who took himself way too seriously. He also hated the movie until everyone loved it. He was so sure it was going to be a failure that he did his damnedest before the film's release to distance himself from it. He was that scared it would kill his career.
But of course everyone loved it and so now he loves it, too.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:22 am to Parmen
The shark STILL gets no credit for acting chops
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:36 am to Parmen
Shaw, a heavy drinker, convinced Speilberg to let the actors drink for the Indianapolis scene. He got so hammered that they had to cut for the day without any usable footage.
Robert called Steven later that night asking if he'd done anything embarrassing onscreen and got the director to give him another crack at it the next morning, sober.
Also, the idea for the backstory did come from an uncredited writer before filming began, then was converted to dialogue by a writer on-site, but the cherry on top was Shaw himself editing it down to the thing of beauty we know & love.
Robert called Steven later that night asking if he'd done anything embarrassing onscreen and got the director to give him another crack at it the next morning, sober.
Also, the idea for the backstory did come from an uncredited writer before filming began, then was converted to dialogue by a writer on-site, but the cherry on top was Shaw himself editing it down to the thing of beauty we know & love.
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:38 am to Parmen
I usually watch this once a year
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:28 am to LSUlefty
How? It's not that long of a movie?
Posted on 9/2/17 at 12:05 pm to theunknownknight
I watch it every summer before going to Destin. Lol
Posted on 9/2/17 at 12:42 pm to Parmen
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film that continues to hold up well today
I couldn't agree more, and it came out over 40 years ago.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 12:53 pm to Backinthe615
If memory serves, John Milius wrote the Indianapolis scene.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 1:20 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Yep, he did the heavy lifting. When I was looking up the drunk story earlier I stumbled on Speilberg's account of the script:
Steven Spielberg: I owe three people a lot for this speech. You’ve heard all this, but you’ve probably never heard it from me. There’s a lot of apocryphal reporting about who did what on Jaws and I’ve heard it for the last three decades, but the fact is the speech was conceived by Howard Sackler, who was an uncredited writer, didn’t want a credit and didn’t arbitrate for one, but he’s the guy that broke the back of the script before we ever got to Martha’s Vineyard to shoot the movie.
I hired later Carl Gottlieb to come onto the island, who was a friend of mine, to punch up the script, but Howard conceived of the Indianapolis speech. I had never heard of the Indianapolis before Howard, who wrote the script at the Bel Air Hotel and I was with him a couple times a week reading pages and discussing them.
Howard one day said, “Quint needs some motivation to show all of us what made him the way he is and I think it’s this Indianapolis incident.” I said, “Howard, what’s that?” And he explained the whole incident of the Indianapolis and the Atomic Bomb being delivered and on its way back it was sunk by a submarine and sharks surrounded the helpless sailors who had been cast adrift and it was just a horrendous piece of World War II history. Howard didn’t write a long speech, he probably wrote about three-quarters of a page.
But then, when I showed the script to my friend John Milius, John said “Can I take a crack at this speech?” and John wrote a 10 page monologue, that was absolutely brilliant, but out-sized for the Jaws I was making! (laughs) But it was brilliant and then Robert Shaw took the speech and Robert did the cut down. Robert himself was a fine writer, who had written the play The Man in the Glass Booth. Robert took a crack at the speech and he brought it down to five pages. So, that was sort of the evolution just of that speech.
Steven Spielberg: I owe three people a lot for this speech. You’ve heard all this, but you’ve probably never heard it from me. There’s a lot of apocryphal reporting about who did what on Jaws and I’ve heard it for the last three decades, but the fact is the speech was conceived by Howard Sackler, who was an uncredited writer, didn’t want a credit and didn’t arbitrate for one, but he’s the guy that broke the back of the script before we ever got to Martha’s Vineyard to shoot the movie.
I hired later Carl Gottlieb to come onto the island, who was a friend of mine, to punch up the script, but Howard conceived of the Indianapolis speech. I had never heard of the Indianapolis before Howard, who wrote the script at the Bel Air Hotel and I was with him a couple times a week reading pages and discussing them.
Howard one day said, “Quint needs some motivation to show all of us what made him the way he is and I think it’s this Indianapolis incident.” I said, “Howard, what’s that?” And he explained the whole incident of the Indianapolis and the Atomic Bomb being delivered and on its way back it was sunk by a submarine and sharks surrounded the helpless sailors who had been cast adrift and it was just a horrendous piece of World War II history. Howard didn’t write a long speech, he probably wrote about three-quarters of a page.
But then, when I showed the script to my friend John Milius, John said “Can I take a crack at this speech?” and John wrote a 10 page monologue, that was absolutely brilliant, but out-sized for the Jaws I was making! (laughs) But it was brilliant and then Robert Shaw took the speech and Robert did the cut down. Robert himself was a fine writer, who had written the play The Man in the Glass Booth. Robert took a crack at the speech and he brought it down to five pages. So, that was sort of the evolution just of that speech.
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