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re: Ironheart. Smh

Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by Locoguan0
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:27 pm to
The funny part is that Ironheart is an extremly unpopular character in the comic books. The only time she has good sales is when she is appearing in another person's series. Disney pushing her this hard just shows their true motivation.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:31 pm to
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Where did she mock him?


I stated it quite clearly. The 2x's he made something out of scraps and random parts. Being a billionaire didn't have anything to do with it.


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If he wasn't a billionaire, he would have been stuck trying to find ways to make money to string together car parts in a garage, a bit like Ironheart did in the series.




Tell us you didn't watch Ironman 1 and 2 without saying you didn't watch Ironman 1 & 2.

Tony built his first suit with one assistant under insane conditions which were literally life or death.

And the key to all of it wasn't the armored suit and gadgets he assembled, but the mini arc reactor he fabricated. Something even the best engineers at this multi billion dollar corporation couldn't duplicate in a fully financed lab with all the time and cutting edge tech available.

THAT is why Tony is 10x what Riri will ever be.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:47 pm to
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Tell us you didn't watch Ironman 1 and 2 without saying you didn't watch Ironman 1 & 2.

Tony built his first suit with one assistant under insane conditions which were literally life or death


Yes, I did watch ironman 1 and 2. Tony did build a suit in the cave with a bunch of scraps. I'm full aware. Guess what though? That suit completely fell apart about 15 minutes later. It served it's purpose, but it wasn't super durable. What did Tony proceed to do? He made another suit that was 10x better. He continued to improve upon those suits. Tony built multiple suits for multiple occasions, situations, etc. He built suits for Rhodey, Peter Parker, Potts, etc. He funded the entire Avengers.
Tony would not be able to do any of that if he wasn't insanely rich.

As I said Tony is a super genius obviously. He could still make suits. But they wouldn't be as advanced and as numerous as they were if he was not rich. That's not a slight either. Theres nothing wrong with admitting that. "Playboy billionaire genius philanthropist". But if Tony wasn't a super rich, he'd just be a genius.

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Something even the best engineers at this multi billion dollar corporation couldn't duplicate in a fully financed lab with all the time and cutting edge tech available.


Yes. Because Tony was better and smarter than them. I never implied otherwise.

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THAT is why Tony is 10x what Riri will ever be.

I'm not and never made the comparison that Riri was better than Tony. Heck, if you watched the show, it's pretty painfully obvious that she has yet to make a suit that is on par with Tony's suits.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:50 pm to
I am still trying to get through the last 3 episodes.

It is tough
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:53 pm to
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But they wouldn't be as advanced and as numerous as they were if he was not rich
had she sold the forcefield ball thing for bazillion, instead of trying to steal a few thousands. . .maybe the dumb clam would be able to make her Eye-kahnik suit.

Tell me I'm wrong?

She is fricking stupid.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:10 pm to
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Guess what though? That suit completely fell apart about 15 minutes later. It served it's purpose, but it wasn't super durable


It was a prototype, which had zero field testing & withstood a full on firefight.

And again, made by him and 1 other person, under extreme duress, in a cave with a box of scraps! Granted some of them were high tech parts of his weapons, but none of them were 'Ironsuit' branded materials.

You know WHY he built all those Iron Man suits? He was suffering from PTSD. He was shaken up by the events in Avengers and wanted to protect Pepper, Rhoady, The world...

Riri's motivation is... to be Iconic! And make money and shite. Yo. 'Casue she's the bestest and everyone just needs to reSPEcT her!
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:11 pm to
Yes. She is a very flawed character, that made some very questionable decisions. I think that was the point of the entire show. Did you fully watch it by any chance?

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Eye-kahnik

Am I supposed to take you seriously when you do stuff like this?
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17252 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:14 pm to
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And again, made by him and 1 other person, under extreme duress, in a cave with a box of scraps! Granted some of them were high tech parts of his weapons, but none of them were 'Ironsuit' branded materials


Yes. I'm aware. As I said, Tony is a super genius who did things very few others could do in his position.

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You know WHY he built all those Iron Man suits? He was suffering from PTSD. He was shaken up by the events in Avengers and wanted to protect Pepper, Rhoady, The world


I'm aware of that. And his money helped him he able to do that.

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Riri's motivation is... to be Iconic! And make money and shite. Yo. 'Casue she's the bestest and everyone just needs to reSPEcT her

Why are you talking like that. Talk like a regular human being and im very willing to engage you.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:26 pm to
I can't understand why YOU'RE talking like you do. Everything is " yeah, but he had money", even though there are real examples of his 'money' not building anything for him, he did it himself.

Rrir, on the other hand, had a Stark Grant, an internship in Wakanda, a full ride to freaking MIT, AND the luxury of having Tony Stark make dozens of suits by the time she got to college.

What the hell did she ever make? A forcefield ring? Was that on her own or did also use Stark grant money and MIT labs for that toy?

What's she ever made that wasn't a rip off of someone else's work?

Because if the did have something truly unique, she could patent it and make... billions.

Oh , and I almsot forgot about the AI she "somehow" made as she was asleep. Great, copy and sell the program for that while she's at it and wham! She's got more money!

WTF is she bothering with these 2 bit criminals and then signing her soul away with Mephisto?

She's willing to risk her life's work to steal 1000's instead of doing real work to help millions while possibly making billions herself
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:13 pm to
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Why does only one race have to apologize.


You know why.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17252 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 8:34 am to
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I can't understand why YOU'RE talking like you do. Everything is " yeah, but he had money", even though there are real examples of his 'money' not building anything for him, he did it himself


What are you talking about. Of course the money didn't build anything. He used the money to buy all the materials and everything else you can imagine to place in his lab. And of course, he made magic happen from there.

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What's she ever made that wasn't a rip off of someone else's work?


You're changing topics completely, here.

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WTF is she bothering with these 2 bit criminals and then signing her soul away with Mephisto?

She's willing to risk her life's work to steal 1000's instead of doing real work to help millions while possibly making billions herself


So you agree that having more money makes everything else easier? That's my only point. I'm not here to argue that Riri made all the correct decisions.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 8:41 am to
You are talking in circles now. There’s no scenario here where having more money isn’t a good thing, but she made it sound like if it were not for his money he’d be nobody. Which is ridiculous. For the very reasons I cited.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 8:50 am to
it looks like Disney pivoted around the 5th episode and said let's wrap this up and end it in 6
it's awful
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17252 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 8:52 am to
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There’s no scenario here where having more money isn’t a good thing


Which was literally the entire point of what Riri said. She never stated Tony was accomplished only because he was rich, but rather it helped him tremendously.

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but she made it sound like if it were not for his money he’d be nobody

Perhaps you misunderstood the scene. Because she certainly never said this.
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 8:56 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 1:10 pm to
The whole idea of cutting the 'series' down to just 6 episodes dropped in 2 nights 1 week apart is the epitome of skating fast over thin ice.

They knew it was trash but were forced to put it out.
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