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I'm here to have The Leftovers explained to me. SPOILERS
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:41 pm
Going to be honest. This show keeps me glued to the screen every week. The music, acting, and cinematography are second to none. That being said I understand maybe 50% of what's going on
I just want some different people's views on what has happened and what might happen in the next 4 episodes. I think the machine people are shady and don't truly believe them. Are people still disappearing or has there only been the one "Rapture" event? So much happens every week I feel like I forget some important details.
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:50 pm to BOSCEAUX
I don't think we will ever truly find out what happened to those who departed. I don't think it would be a wise move for the writers/creators because it is going to piss off a bunch of people no matter what. So I think they should leave that a mystery and focus on the story of what becomes of Nora and Kevin and the rest of the world. That is what the show is about, after all, those who didn't depart - the leftovers.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:51 pm to BOSCEAUX
quote:Your guess is as good as mine.
what might happen in the next 4 episodes.
quote:I don't think anyone has disappeared since the event in 2011. I don't think the machine people are sketchy. But I don't think they have a full idea of what happens to people when they arrive on the other side.
I think the machine people are shady and don't truly believe them. Are people still disappearing or has there only been the one "Rapture" event? So much happens every week I feel like I forget some important details.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:56 pm to JBeam
I honestly hope they DON'T explain what happened to those who departed in season 1. I don't see how the show benefits from it.
All I know is, if we're going to get answers, they sure have a lot of explaining to do in just four episodes.
All I know is, if we're going to get answers, they sure have a lot of explaining to do in just four episodes.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:05 pm to Marciano1
They can do it in four episodes if they truly want to. I just don't know if I want that to be the ending or not.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:25 pm to JBeam
Writers and cast have said they are very pleased and think viewers will be too.
What the hell that means is beyond me.
This season and last are some of the best TV I've ever seen
What the hell that means is beyond me.
This season and last are some of the best TV I've ever seen
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:33 pm to BigB0882
quote:
I don't think we will ever truly find out what happened to those who departed.
The final shot will be Nora going into the machine and ending up in a hatch on the island from LOST and people collectively lose their fricking minds cursing damon lindelof and sending him death threats.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:34 pm to musick
I would watch that spinoff
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:36 pm to JBeam
Well if the machine people are legit then we would get some sort of explanation of what happened, maybe not verbatim but an idea. The ending of this seasons first episode has me worried something happens to Kevin.
Also can somebody explain the scene with Pilgrims/Amish. I feel like I missed something important in that scene. Was it just letting us know similar events have happened before?
Also can somebody explain the scene with Pilgrims/Amish. I feel like I missed something important in that scene. Was it just letting us know similar events have happened before?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:38 pm to musick
Ever since Australia entered the picture I've been waiting to see a nod to LOST. What if the rapture was caused by another energy discharge from the island. People would lose their fricking minds.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:39 pm to BOSCEAUX
quote:
Well if the machine people are legit then we would get some sort of explanation of what happened, maybe not verbatim but an idea.
I just thought of something, my above LOST post was obviously a joke.
But since S2 and continuing this season on the title intro sequence it has been showing the departed people in photos as space/stars/the universe.
What if that Dr. was right and it just shot everyone literally into space? It goes with the "odds" discussion and the title sequence. That could be it honestly.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:43 pm to BOSCEAUX
quote:
Also can somebody explain the scene with Pilgrims/Amish. I feel like I missed something important in that scene. Was it just letting us know similar events have happened before?
It was the same thing as the intro to season 2, showing the woman having a baby then getting killed by a snake and her baby taken by another lady. Just showing that the geographical location had historical significance.
Thinking about it now, there has been a whole lot of "that's not your baby" / "raising other people's kids" in this show. (Tommy, Lily, the baby scene at bus stop, nora/jill, etc) Reminds me of LOST with Aaron and Claire: "You must raise him, no one else can" And then Kate, etc raising Aaron instead and then it becoming a disaster with the grandmother, etc.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:45 pm to BOSCEAUX
Crackpot theory:
-This season opened on the evangelists in 18th century waiting on the second coming of Christ....someone was sending carrier pigeons with the date to them. But they miss it, the rapture never comes.
-We get a glimpse of an older Nora at the end of one of the episodes delivering carrier pigeons to a nun/church. All had messages.....
-We get all this Kevin is Jesus shite throughout....
- Kevin is Jesus. 2011 was the rapture which "awoke" Kevin as the second coming (although it took a long time for him/us to realize).
I think Kevin will be taken into heaven or something and the old Nora is how she has devoted her life after Kevin "rises" to heaven?
idk, i'm fricking nuts, shows fricking nuts
-This season opened on the evangelists in 18th century waiting on the second coming of Christ....someone was sending carrier pigeons with the date to them. But they miss it, the rapture never comes.
-We get a glimpse of an older Nora at the end of one of the episodes delivering carrier pigeons to a nun/church. All had messages.....
-We get all this Kevin is Jesus shite throughout....
- Kevin is Jesus. 2011 was the rapture which "awoke" Kevin as the second coming (although it took a long time for him/us to realize).
I think Kevin will be taken into heaven or something and the old Nora is how she has devoted her life after Kevin "rises" to heaven?
idk, i'm fricking nuts, shows fricking nuts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:02 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
quote:
-We get a glimpse of an older Nora at the end of one of the episodes delivering carrier pigeons to a nun/church
She could also be sending the pigeons back in time. Old nora obviously didn't want the nun knowing that she knew Kevin.
i have no idea but I love every minute of it.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:26 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
I enjoy running with the theory that Kevin is either the second coming or a major prophet. And even if the story never touches on anything close to that reality, I feel like they are certainly running stories that follow biblical parallels.
For example, anytime you've got a rapture story and 4 mysterious figures show up on horseback, that's a pretty strong nod to the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. The main lady who spoke with Kevin Sr. feels a lot like the horseman Death with the story of how her kids died.
My way out there theory is that Kevin is jesus, the voices/hallucinations are demons, the demons have tricked Kevin Sr. into orchestrating Kevin meeting up with the 4 horsemen, and the horsemen will end up being Kevin's ultimate enemy/temptation in wherever the hell they are bringing this season.
Whatever the case, I'm really looking forward to Kevin's encounter with Death/that crazy old lady
For example, anytime you've got a rapture story and 4 mysterious figures show up on horseback, that's a pretty strong nod to the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. The main lady who spoke with Kevin Sr. feels a lot like the horseman Death with the story of how her kids died.
My way out there theory is that Kevin is jesus, the voices/hallucinations are demons, the demons have tricked Kevin Sr. into orchestrating Kevin meeting up with the 4 horsemen, and the horsemen will end up being Kevin's ultimate enemy/temptation in wherever the hell they are bringing this season.
Whatever the case, I'm really looking forward to Kevin's encounter with Death/that crazy old lady
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:30 pm to funnystuff
It's definitely biblical. Keep in mind we are going to hit the 7th anniversary of the departure and 7 years is a huge number in the bible and to me it's all pointing towards the rapture and tribulation. Will Lindelof come out and say it? Not sure. But his ending of LOST kinda leans toward the fact he may.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:31 pm to funnystuff
I like your thoughts. Really adds some meat to the Kevin/Jesus theory. I hadn't put the horseman thing together.
Has anyone else noticed the names of people around him?
Matthew
John
Thomas
Mary
Michael
all apostles/biblical figures central to Christ
Has anyone else noticed the names of people around him?
Matthew
John
Thomas
Mary
Michael
all apostles/biblical figures central to Christ
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:35 pm to BOSCEAUX
There was only 1 rapture.
Kevin Sr. has to drown Kevin Jr. to send him to the other side and get the last song/dance form the guy he killed falling off the roof.
IMO they will wind up stopping the flood, but not after it wipes out modern civilization so people can " restart"
The last episode is Book of Nora, If I had to guess, she will be punished for being such a non believer in kevin Jr, and will be the one who has to start the hwole pigeon thing for the 3rd coming of christ. starting it all over again.
Also remember Kevin Sr talking about Abraham sacrificing his son. In the bible God stops Abraham, as it was just a test to make sure his faith was devoted more to god than his children.
Will the same thing happen in the show? was that what the pilgrim thing was all about, showing the woman who had her faith tested? to me she looked like Kevin Jr.s ex wife, anyway.
Who knows, but that's def the direction they're taking. Either way, I think it's pretty obvious by the end Kevin will be gone and Nora will be left behind again. She reeks of the stereotypical non believing, woe is me, pity type person who would be most deserving of " God's wrath". It may even be Kevin who decides to leave her behind because shes been so unappreciative of her new life that was given to her. She finds the misery in everything and makes it all about her.
Kevin Sr. has to drown Kevin Jr. to send him to the other side and get the last song/dance form the guy he killed falling off the roof.
IMO they will wind up stopping the flood, but not after it wipes out modern civilization so people can " restart"
The last episode is Book of Nora, If I had to guess, she will be punished for being such a non believer in kevin Jr, and will be the one who has to start the hwole pigeon thing for the 3rd coming of christ. starting it all over again.
Also remember Kevin Sr talking about Abraham sacrificing his son. In the bible God stops Abraham, as it was just a test to make sure his faith was devoted more to god than his children.
Will the same thing happen in the show? was that what the pilgrim thing was all about, showing the woman who had her faith tested? to me she looked like Kevin Jr.s ex wife, anyway.
Who knows, but that's def the direction they're taking. Either way, I think it's pretty obvious by the end Kevin will be gone and Nora will be left behind again. She reeks of the stereotypical non believing, woe is me, pity type person who would be most deserving of " God's wrath". It may even be Kevin who decides to leave her behind because shes been so unappreciative of her new life that was given to her. She finds the misery in everything and makes it all about her.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:41 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Yea the nods to the Bible are getting more prevalent. The old women give me a bad vibe. Do they want to crucify Kevin or just prove he is the new messiah?
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 7:49 am
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:42 pm to Gusoline
quote:
Will the same thing happen in the show? was that what the pilgrim thing was all about, showing the woman who had her faith tested?
I don't know how much you can read into this though. That whole scene could be a red herring, even though we obviously see Nora with pigeons. Do you think the opening scene of S2 with the lady/snake/baby come back into play too?
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 3:43 pm
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