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I recommend a chronological watch of the Pacific and Band of Brothers to everyone
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:12 pm
Pacific 1 Dec 1941-Oct 1942
Pacific 2 Oct 1942
Pacific 3 Dec 1942-Fall 1943
Pacific 4 Dec 1943
Band of Brothers 1 1942-Jun 1944
Band of Brothers 2 Jun 6, 1944
Band of Brothers 3 Jun 7, 1944
Pacific 5 Sep 1944
Band of Brothers 4 Sep 1944
Pacific 6 Sep-Oct 1944
Band of Brothers 5 Oct 1944
Pacific 7 Oct-Dec 1944
Band of Brothers 6 Dec 1944
Band of Brothers 7 Jan 1945
Band of Brothers 8 Feb 1945
Pacific 8 Feb 1945
Band of Brothers 9 Apr 1945
Pacific 9 Apr-Jun 1945
Band of Brothers 10 May-Aug 1945
Pacific 10 Aug 1945-1947
The penultimate view of both theaters. Both miniseries are excellent. I know most view BoB as superior but I consider them both in the same plane.
BoB is an amazing look at the bond of Easy. There’s no other company as famous for their exploits and characters, it was a truly special bond those boys had. The characters and the acting of BoB are phenomenal, but I consider the Pacific just as good in its own right. It’s a different tale. The theaters were so different and the series captures the horror of both.
The source materials are different but the stories are just as harrowing. The Pacific is so much different but just as tear jerking. I implore everyone to not only watch the series but read the books both are based on. Ambrose’s BoB is amazing, just like Sledge’s With the Old Breed and Leckies Helmet for my Pillow.
I always tear up at Winter’s story of “grandpa, were you a hero in the war?” and the account of Sledge having nightmares every time he tried to sleep for the rest of his life.
Love these series both, especially in this time of political discourse. It’s great to remember the sacrifices of the greatest generation, on both fronts. I often think, would I have been so brave? I’ve also been watching Peter Burns, The War. Gives a great perspective to what was going on abroad and at home, in towns such as Mobile.
Pacific 2 Oct 1942
Pacific 3 Dec 1942-Fall 1943
Pacific 4 Dec 1943
Band of Brothers 1 1942-Jun 1944
Band of Brothers 2 Jun 6, 1944
Band of Brothers 3 Jun 7, 1944
Pacific 5 Sep 1944
Band of Brothers 4 Sep 1944
Pacific 6 Sep-Oct 1944
Band of Brothers 5 Oct 1944
Pacific 7 Oct-Dec 1944
Band of Brothers 6 Dec 1944
Band of Brothers 7 Jan 1945
Band of Brothers 8 Feb 1945
Pacific 8 Feb 1945
Band of Brothers 9 Apr 1945
Pacific 9 Apr-Jun 1945
Band of Brothers 10 May-Aug 1945
Pacific 10 Aug 1945-1947
The penultimate view of both theaters. Both miniseries are excellent. I know most view BoB as superior but I consider them both in the same plane.
BoB is an amazing look at the bond of Easy. There’s no other company as famous for their exploits and characters, it was a truly special bond those boys had. The characters and the acting of BoB are phenomenal, but I consider the Pacific just as good in its own right. It’s a different tale. The theaters were so different and the series captures the horror of both.
The source materials are different but the stories are just as harrowing. The Pacific is so much different but just as tear jerking. I implore everyone to not only watch the series but read the books both are based on. Ambrose’s BoB is amazing, just like Sledge’s With the Old Breed and Leckies Helmet for my Pillow.
I always tear up at Winter’s story of “grandpa, were you a hero in the war?” and the account of Sledge having nightmares every time he tried to sleep for the rest of his life.
Love these series both, especially in this time of political discourse. It’s great to remember the sacrifices of the greatest generation, on both fronts. I often think, would I have been so brave? I’ve also been watching Peter Burns, The War. Gives a great perspective to what was going on abroad and at home, in towns such as Mobile.
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:24 pm to Frac the world
Amazing work. Just finished watching both again.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:37 pm to geauxbrown
The psychological toll in the Pacific was just something else, those boys had been fighting for 2 year by the time the Toccoa men jumped into Normandy. Every attack on a Pacific island was D-Day. Not taking way from the boys in the European theater( I never knew my great uncle because of Hitler) but the Pacific was just something else.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:05 am to Frac the world
The major differences in the two theaters was the Krauts would surrender quite frequently whereas the Japs would not. The Marines that went Island hopping in WW2 were the greatest warriors this nation has ever known or will ever know. Thank you for laying out the timeframe format like you did. I’ve watched both series twice and I could easily do it again.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:09 am to Frac the world
The Pacific War in WWII was the largest battlefield by square mileage in the history of warfare. The largest and most decisive naval battles in the history of warfare took place there. If you gents are big into reading up on military history and have an itch to learn more about the Pacific Theater, I recommend Ian W. Toll's Pacific War trilogy. Two of the three books have been released, with the third and final volume set for release in June.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:25 am to RollTide1987
Thanks for the recommendation! I haven’t read those.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:45 am to Frac the world
I didn't like the Pacific. It got real boring for some reason. Well acted and screened though.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:59 am to RollTide1987
“They had no right to win. Yet they did, and in doing so they changed the course of a war.
More than that, they added a new name – Midway – to that small list that inspires men by example, like Marathon, the Armada, the Marne.
Even against the greatest odds, there is something in the human spirit – a magic blend of skill, faith and valor – that can lift men from certain defeat to incredible victory.”
— Walter Lord (speaking on the Battle of Midway)
The Pacific Theater was almost incomprehensible to the military brass. It looked like it could take forever.
But then came Midway
The Pacific War went from what looked like a 10-year battle until we were fully operational into something that could be done.
Nearly six months after the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, the war in the Pacific was not going well for the Allies. A terrible beating by the Japanese at the Battle of the Java Sea on February 27, 1942, resulted in the dissolving of the ABDA (American-British-Dutch-Australian) Command and the threat of a victorious Japanese fleet sailing for Australia and possibly Hawaii.
Then came Midway...where the Japanese hoped to wipe out the entire American Fleet after Pearl Harbor in open sea.
But as military historian John Keegan wrote:
U.S. forces were able to anticipate the Japanese surprise attack and deliver the Imperial Navy what military historian John Keegan called “the most stunning and decisive blow in the history of naval warfare.”
Midway totally changed the war from the Japanese as the aggressors and dominant force to them retreating to island bunkers for the remainder of the war.
More than that, they added a new name – Midway – to that small list that inspires men by example, like Marathon, the Armada, the Marne.
Even against the greatest odds, there is something in the human spirit – a magic blend of skill, faith and valor – that can lift men from certain defeat to incredible victory.”
— Walter Lord (speaking on the Battle of Midway)
The Pacific Theater was almost incomprehensible to the military brass. It looked like it could take forever.
But then came Midway
The Pacific War went from what looked like a 10-year battle until we were fully operational into something that could be done.
Nearly six months after the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, the war in the Pacific was not going well for the Allies. A terrible beating by the Japanese at the Battle of the Java Sea on February 27, 1942, resulted in the dissolving of the ABDA (American-British-Dutch-Australian) Command and the threat of a victorious Japanese fleet sailing for Australia and possibly Hawaii.
Then came Midway...where the Japanese hoped to wipe out the entire American Fleet after Pearl Harbor in open sea.
But as military historian John Keegan wrote:
U.S. forces were able to anticipate the Japanese surprise attack and deliver the Imperial Navy what military historian John Keegan called “the most stunning and decisive blow in the history of naval warfare.”
Midway totally changed the war from the Japanese as the aggressors and dominant force to them retreating to island bunkers for the remainder of the war.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 2:30 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I knew Snafu Mr. Merriel Shelton in real life and talked with him many times or listened to his war stories.
By the time easy company jumps into Normandy, he had already fought on Guadalcanal, Cape Gloucester, and would go on to fight on Peleliu and Okinawa.
On Peleliu the Japanese tank attack at the airfield was the hardest fight as he told it.
Easy company 506th was one of the best, but there were many better and you do not hear of their stories, the 82nd Airborne has many heroes on the Normandy landing and did some outstanding work those 48 hours.
In the First Marines alone John Basilone's company is outstanding, but like most Marine outfits it is destroyed as a company due to casualties, transfers to build the new divisions. Out of the first Marines the Marines built 5 more divisions and sucking up many of the best to lay the ground work for each new division.
In the US Army divisions you can find many great companies, and like Audie Murphy's B company, 1st Battalion 15h Regiment, 3rd Division, by 1945 it is shot up and many transferred to other duties.
Easy company is good on film, but by 1945 it was like many great companies it is a shell of what it was June 6th and Band of Brothers the show you can tell the effect of the story as it has to steer to Major Winters in the later episodes as much of the early members have been wounded, killed, captured or transferred.
By the time easy company jumps into Normandy, he had already fought on Guadalcanal, Cape Gloucester, and would go on to fight on Peleliu and Okinawa.
On Peleliu the Japanese tank attack at the airfield was the hardest fight as he told it.
Easy company 506th was one of the best, but there were many better and you do not hear of their stories, the 82nd Airborne has many heroes on the Normandy landing and did some outstanding work those 48 hours.
In the First Marines alone John Basilone's company is outstanding, but like most Marine outfits it is destroyed as a company due to casualties, transfers to build the new divisions. Out of the first Marines the Marines built 5 more divisions and sucking up many of the best to lay the ground work for each new division.
In the US Army divisions you can find many great companies, and like Audie Murphy's B company, 1st Battalion 15h Regiment, 3rd Division, by 1945 it is shot up and many transferred to other duties.
Easy company is good on film, but by 1945 it was like many great companies it is a shell of what it was June 6th and Band of Brothers the show you can tell the effect of the story as it has to steer to Major Winters in the later episodes as much of the early members have been wounded, killed, captured or transferred.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 3:56 am to Frac the world
The Pacific is great but it’s so different. It really shows that in the final episode with Sledge: look at how his character evolves from this scrawny timid boy to this almost brainless killing machine later.
He breaks down while hunting, tells the college recruitment lady that asks him if he has any skills that he’s damn good at killing Japs. He’s just a completely different character completely, entirely changed by the horrors of war. You never really get to see that, at least to me, on BoB where it’s how they were kept sane and from going to those dark places Sledge and even Leckie did, because of the love and humor for each other.
Amazing series for both. Basilone is a badass
He breaks down while hunting, tells the college recruitment lady that asks him if he has any skills that he’s damn good at killing Japs. He’s just a completely different character completely, entirely changed by the horrors of war. You never really get to see that, at least to me, on BoB where it’s how they were kept sane and from going to those dark places Sledge and even Leckie did, because of the love and humor for each other.
Amazing series for both. Basilone is a badass
Posted on 1/20/19 at 5:26 am to WicKed WayZ
I honestly prefer the story of the Pacific.
Because it's the story of our War.
Europeans still say Russians won the European theater and they probably would've all by themselves...they threw everybody but the kitchen sink at it and lost 3x anybody else.
We should have committed all our troops to the Pacific but Churchill wanted us in Europe and FDR wanted an influence and presence in Europe for the future at a time when Americans voted to remain isolationists and saw it as another "European War."
But the Pacific was different. Control of the waters in the Pacific.
The show hits closer to home and the help we got to defeat Japan wasn't remotely commesurate to what we sacrificed to Churchill in Europe.
Because it's the story of our War.
Europeans still say Russians won the European theater and they probably would've all by themselves...they threw everybody but the kitchen sink at it and lost 3x anybody else.
We should have committed all our troops to the Pacific but Churchill wanted us in Europe and FDR wanted an influence and presence in Europe for the future at a time when Americans voted to remain isolationists and saw it as another "European War."
But the Pacific was different. Control of the waters in the Pacific.
The show hits closer to home and the help we got to defeat Japan wasn't remotely commesurate to what we sacrificed to Churchill in Europe.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:22 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
If you look at every one of Churchill's actions through the lens of preservation of the British Empire it explains a lot. Not saying he didn't like the Americans or wish us well. But he manipulated FDR and American sentiment for one reason and one reason only: to save the Empire.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:41 am to Frac the world
I know this is petty and all. But penultimate means next to last. It isn't just a fancy way of saying ultimate.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 10:26 am to Frac the world
I'm currently watching Band of Brothers for the first time. On Ep. 5 and WOW. Unlike those poor, brave men that served, I don't want it to end. Truly gripping at portraying the hell those men went through.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:01 pm to Stiles
The next few episode hit home for real
Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:29 am to tigger1
quote:
I knew Snafu Mr. Merriel Shelton in real life
He don't wash barrels for no man.
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