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I hope Michael Mann gets royalty checks for the Grand Theft Auto franchise

Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:58 am
Posted by pevetohead
lurking behind sonic
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:58 am
Vice City is a “homage” to Miami Vice, and GTA V is literally Heat the video game. Beat for beat copy of the bank truck heist, and bank heist. Complete with the exact same attire as De Niro & Kilmer. Not to mention his influence is on literally every single GTA game from GTA 3 onwards. I hope the dude gets a big fat royalty check because this one of the biggest video game franchises of all time and it’s essentially his 80s and 90s work repackaged.

Edit: also forgot that longtime Mann collaborators Tangerine Dream did the score for GTA V
This post was edited on 6/17/24 at 3:50 pm
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20505 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:06 am to
I think your off

GTA 3 is more a retelling of Payback.

Gta San Andreas is boys in the hood

Vice city is more closely associated with Scarface.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:11 am to
Someone never heard of satire
Posted by pevetohead
lurking behind sonic
Member since Apr 2017
3532 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:37 am to
I wouldn’t say satire. More like homage. I think the games I listed are a love letter to Mann’s work, whereas the biting satire is on stuff contemporary to whatever time period the game is set in.

Nice try tho.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:41 am to
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Vice city is more closely associated with Scarface.

That's not true. Yeah, there are plenty of similarities to Scarface. But not enough where the Miami Vice influence is less prominent.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:47 am to
Much like Blade Runner and The Road Warrior, Miami Vice (and to a lesser extent Scarface) esentially invented an entire sub-genre vibe that has been imitated and ripped off by filmmakers and authors for decades now.

I don't know how you'd have grounds to sue for royalties though. How to you put a copyright on synthesizers, super cars, neon lights, palm trees, sunsets, and pastels?
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Posted by RoyalAir
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:47 am to
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That's not true. Yeah, there are plenty of similarities to Scarface. But not enough where the Miami Vice influence is less prominent.


It's 50/50. There's a sequence in VC that literally takes place in a replica of Scarface's mansion.

I've played 3, VC, and IV. I gotta say VC is my favorite for how it portrays a time and place so well.

Posted by pevetohead
lurking behind sonic
Member since Apr 2017
3532 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:07 pm to
It’s not just Vice City. GTA V is Heat. The missions are an exact copy of the heists in Heat. Again, it’s a love letter homage to the film. But if I were Mann and my work got homaged by GTA for a second time and made literally BILLIONS of dollars, I’d be kinda irked if I wasn’t seeing any of that $$$
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:09 pm to
Yeah it seems pretty inarguable that VC is almost a shot for shot remake of Scarface. There are missions that literally mimic the movie scene for scene.

I get the Miami Vice angle for the setting and all of that, but that's more "80s"
and the setting of Miami than specifically Miami Vice. But the Scarface comparisons are unavoidable.
This post was edited on 6/17/24 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30266 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

It's 50/50. There's a sequence in VC that literally takes place in a replica of Scarface's mansion.

I've played 3, VC, and IV. I gotta say VC is my favorite for how it portrays a time and place so well.

50/50, 60/40, it's a toss up. For me, it's always been more of a Miami Vice thing instead of Scarface. Philip Michael Thomas voices Lance Vance. Another interesting thing is that Tony Montana is officially part of the Miami Vice television series canon. The Miami Vice novelization talks about Calderone learning from the recent fall of Tony Montana.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
7869 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:39 pm to
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