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re: House of Cards: Full Season Discussion (WITH SPOILERS)

Posted on 3/1/15 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/1/15 at 1:23 pm to
I thought the season was great. It was engaging and kept my interest throughout. I think this will be one of those season people will appreciate more over time.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29176 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 2:12 pm to
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I think this will be one of those season people will appreciate more over time.



I really hope you're right, because I found myself pretty disappointed this season

"boring" is the first thing that comes to mind. And I agree with the thread's consensus that it should have ended this season. I kept holding out for that big moment that turned Frank's run for the worst, because the previews totally led you to believe Underwood was screwed.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 2:21 pm to
My only issue with this season is that it seems that Frank had lost all his ability to be persuasive and cunning. EVERY person saw thru his bullshite. What changed?

Like literally, every fricking character saw straight through him. He was not in control and on the defensive the whole season.

Plus, LESS STAMPER MORE FU. Stamper fricking dominated this season and for no real reason. I mean, who the frick wants to watch Stmaper spend time with his brother or even worse stare out a fricking window for 10 minutes an episode?

I also think Claire is a count. She knew going in she wouldn't get the glory. Why the sudden change? Plus, her leaving makes next season unbelievable. No way a divorced guy can beat a woman. Not gonna happen, unless he kills her and plays the widower card.
This post was edited on 3/1/15 at 2:32 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 2:46 pm to
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I think this will be one of those season people will appreciate more over time.


Highly doubt it. The season was complete filler. Really this season could have been boiled down to 2 episodes. Frank should have fallen this season.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 2:51 pm to
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I also think Claire is a count. She knew going in she wouldn't get the glory. Why the sudden change? Plus, her leaving makes next season unbelievable. No way a divorced guy can beat a woman. Not gonna happen, unless he kills her and plays the widower card.



While I think Claire will get back with him in some way, could you believe if a non-elected president's wife tried to be ambassador to the United States for the UN within 6 months of him entering the oval office? It would be one thing if she was qualified, but Congress would laugh its arse off with her seeking the nomination, and ask Frank if they were that fricking openly power hungry to do something so ballsy and stupid. Yeah, Hillary may have become NY's Senator, but she waited 8 years when her husband was out of power and not less than 8 months when her husband is the most powerful person on the planet. Sorry, but that was completely laughable that she would have gotten within even sniffing distance of that position.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39730 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 2:53 pm to
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I think this will be one of those season people will appreciate more over time.


Nope. It really wasn't good and almost NONE of the major plots were remotely realistic or believable.

Sure, its TV, but this isn't some futuristic Sci-Fi show requiring suspension of disbelief. I never had to use SOD for West Wing.

Major characters were castrated and disappeared. Claire was 100% unbelievable as UN Ambassador. They SKIPPED the 2nd vote on her position when the recess was over. Frank became predictable and unstable. The Russian President acted like he was off his meds then on his meds then off his meds.

The Peace keeping plot made no sense.
The 500 billion for jobs plot made less sense.

Neither would work and anyone pushing them would be mocked by BOTH parties and the press would have a field day.

Claire becoming a whiny bitch who wants limelight was out of nowhere. And she just acted like a bitch. If she was going to try and move into the limelight, the old Claire would have done a much better job of being subtle and slowly building her power.

I switch my initial comment. The season actually sucked. Not just Meh. It sucked. It had great production values and acting but the entire plot was 100% certified grade A shite.
This post was edited on 3/1/15 at 2:57 pm
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25607 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 2:55 pm to
I'm with you there. I was willing to look past it if they would have made a compelling storyline with her as UN ambassador, but they didn't.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 3:03 pm to
Menopause, all of it.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 3:25 pm to
I waited a year for this shite?
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11659 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 4:09 pm to
I'm almost finished with the 3rd season.

Why does Underwood not knock his ring on a table anymore? His signature move became nonexistent for apparently no reason
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 4:17 pm to
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Why does Underwood not knock his ring on a table anymore? His signature move became nonexistent for apparently no reason



His entire personality is really non-existent. He's not a ruthless a-hole we knew him as.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12042 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 4:23 pm to
Im 4 episodes in and theres nothing compelling me to keep going. Reading yalls reviews, i feel even less motivated to power through this. maybe ill get around to it, but it really has lost its way.
Posted by jso0003
Member since Jun 2009
5170 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:20 pm to
I think the bottom line is that this show is well produced, but horribly written.

Season 2 was a joke. It was so ridiculous but it least it kept me watching.

This season has somehow found a way to be worse than season 2.

Claire has zero depth as a character and is very poorly acted. They basically removed Doug who is one of the only interesting characters. They have way overplayed the whole Russia angle.

Just shitty writing from top to bottom.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51369 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:36 pm to
The original Urkeht kept killing off girlfriends. Fraank doesn't even have girlfriends anymore. the zoe thing made it more interesting
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:39 pm to
Did anyone else besides myself have to do a double take on the "omelette" symbolism in the second episode. I thought surely there was more complexity to it than that, but that's it. They have a really low opinion on their audience's intelligence and greatly overestimate their own intelligence. It was just plain silly.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:39 pm to
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the zoe thing made it more interesting



But they don't bring up Zoe once this season.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:48 pm to
They do tangentially. And Frank has already said,"We will never speak of this." I don't get the hate for this season, except that not enough happened. But it was good for character development, and almost definitely makes next season awesome.

I'll definitely say though that this season felt like half a season.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:53 pm to
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They do tangentially. And Frank has already said,"We will never speak of this." I don't get the hate for this season, except that not enough happened. But it was good for character development, and almost definitely makes next season awesome.



What, Claire leaves Frank? What character development did we have that doesn't put us back to square one? Really, it's a reset button, minus Claire being completely on-board with this. Doug is back, Remy is back on the outside, Frank is still fighting. It's nothing new. All we did is remove a major obstacle in Frank's way (Rachel) and Claire is being defiant. Why couldn't we have done this in 3 episodes?
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11357 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 7:48 pm to
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I thought the season was great. It was engaging and kept my interest throughout. I think this will be one of those season people will appreciate more over time.


Agreed. They will never top season one + season 2 1st episode. But I enjoyed it.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33893 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 8:31 pm to
I've got one episode left but this season definitely hasn't been as hard hitting. I think one thing that stands out to me is that his breaking of the third wall was lack luster. It didn't really stand out to me until the last couple of episodes. I'm hoping this is as you guys say a "reset" season. Maybe make him seem a bit more vulnerable.
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