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re: Homeland Season 2 Finale Prediction Thread (12/16)
Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:19 am to Iona Fan Man
Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:19 am to Iona Fan Man
Not sure what's going to happen to Finn.
They really need to pay off the Dana investment, but I'm not sure how Finn plays in.
Finn will be at the funeral in the next episode, that might give him and Dana some face time (and danger time).
They really need to pay off the Dana investment, but I'm not sure how Finn plays in.
Finn will be at the funeral in the next episode, that might give him and Dana some face time (and danger time).
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:40 am to Billy Mays
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Not sure what's going to happen to Finn.
They really need to pay off the Dana investment, but I'm not sure how Finn plays in.
Finn will be at the funeral in the next episode, that might give him and Dana some face time (and danger time).
So in next weeks previews we see Jess getting this "oh shite" look of shock while watching TV then patting Dana on the head as she's crying. I was thinking maybe this was Finn getting shot or something and they're seeing it on the news. It was in the back of my mind that Nazir was gonna take it a little further than just killing the VP. He prob has a plan in motion to maybe make something happen at Waldons funeral or memorial service. And Roya Hammad is clearly being too bold in the interrogation. She is a HUGE piece in that cell, not a simple pawn, and she knows that Nazir being killed or captured isn't the end of it. We know there has to be a CIA mole still out there that knew about Estes info in his safe that day Brody stole the codes etc. So Nazir isn't the entire head of the snake.
and the last scene of the preview is Carrie going "Oh my God" with that trembling look and crazy eyes she always has... I couldn't tell if she's on the phone while she's saying this, but it looks like she's still at the cabin. This will prob be the last scene of the finale and the cliffhanger to lead us into next season. If she is on a phone (which I can't fully tell even after rewinding it a few times) she's obviously being told something that's a huge revelation to her, can't really tell if it's just bad/troubling news (like someone close to her has been shot or killed i.e. Saul), or something telling her she's in immediate danger.....but if she wasn't on a phone and she's thinking to herself, that makes it even more interesting. It's like something she's had a hunch about all along, and now it's confirmed in her mind. I'm guessing it will in fact be that Brody is now wearing Nazirs shoes, or there is someone just as powerful now in charge and in an even better position than Nazir to wreck shop, whoever it may be. I'm sure it's gonna be someone we've seen before.
And I think Galvez is a mole. I think someone else in the Company is involved too. That person is prob a character we haven't seen yet and will emerge next season.
Regardless, I'm getting sick of how the writers try to play us as an audience. When you start writing to try and fool the viewer, the story becomes way more outlandish and quite frankly it's just insulting to us. It's hard for me to explain what I'm trying to say, but it's like they are allowed to change the rules in the middle of the game, making it totally unbelievable, yet just plausible enough to cover their tracks. This show should be better than that.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:13 pm to Michael J Cocks
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And I think Galvez is a mole.
I as well. We were conditioned to think he was the obvious choice (muslim/AWOL from the hospital), then there was this "emergency bleeding" episode. They are either going to reveal him as the mole or introduce someone new.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:21 pm to Michael J Cocks
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I'm guessing it will in fact be that Brody is now wearing Nazirs shoes
I have to believe this. At the end of last season, Dana saved Brody's life by talking him out of detonation. Maybe Brody is willing to sacrifice himself (let Quinn kill him) so his family can be free and essentially save them from retribution.
The only problem with that theory is that Dana likely survives, which I don't think she can.
The other way to go is that Quinn or someone in the CIA somehow accidentally kills Dana and it turns Brody into full jihadist.
I might be personally hoping Dana dies too much, but all evidence points me in that direction.
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I couldn't tell if she's on the phone while she's saying this, but it looks like she's still at the cabin. This will prob be the last scene of the finale and the cliffhanger to lead us into next season
I'll be pissed if that last scene is Quinn pulling the trigger - camera immediately turns to Carrie in the Cabin getting a phone call (that we can't hear) from Saul who arrived on the scene too late - fade to credits.
Will.break.tv.if.happens.
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:47 pm to Michael J Cocks
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Regardless, I'm getting sick of how the writers try to play us as an audience. When you start writing to try and fool the viewer, the story becomes way more outlandish and quite frankly it's just insulting to us. It's hard for me to explain what I'm trying to say, but it's like they are allowed to change the rules in the middle of the game, making it totally unbelievable, yet just plausible enough to cover their tracks. This show should be better than that.
Couldn't agree more. Lost was the worst offender of this.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 3:51 pm to whomewhat
I just don't see how Body could be the new Nazir. He has yet to show he even wants to be a terrorist this season. Every plot Roya talked with him about he was very hesitant to go along with. If body hadn't have been caught there is still no way he would have gone through with the whole killing 300 soldiers returning home plan.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 4:07 pm to CE Tiger
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I just don't see how Body could be the new Nazir. He has yet to show he even wants to be a terrorist this season. Every plot Roya talked with him about he was very hesitant to go along with
I think it's a theory. Nazir's psychological hold on him is really strong. Dana alleviated some of his hold on Brody the end of Season 1.
This whole season, IMO, is Brody trying to play the long game in an attempt to provide his family a normal life in the meantime.
Certain things have happened to shatter his confidence even more, mainly his capture by Carrie/CIA. He was starting to psychologically break down and freak out due to his own personal turmoil. Roya saw this and called Nazir in to escalate the plan. I don't even know if Brody knew about the 300 soldier attack until recently. Nazir's coming to America flipped the script completely.
Nazir must really believe in Brody's abilities if he chose to basically sabotage his own attack in order to get Brody to take his place. Maybe getting Brody to take the reigns and to kill Walden under-the-radar was worth it to Nazir.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 4:29 pm to CE Tiger
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If body hadn't have been caught there is still no way he would have gone through with the whole killing 300 soldiers returning home plan.
I'm not so sure either way really, but you see how quick he can turn ruthless and cold, like when Walden was dying for example. And same thing when he killed Walker last season.
and again it would come down to the writers mind fricking us, but I think it's still very possible that he was even playing Roya, not letting her know how deep he is. The whole "Greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making the world believe he didn't exist" thing.
ETA: Also just wanted to say I fricking hate when Brody starts having those fricking panic attacks, the way he's breathing and shite. The same way I hate Carrie when she starts getting the crazy eyes in intense situations.
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 12/11/12 at 5:32 pm to Michael J Cocks
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but you see how quick he can turn ruthless and cold, like when Walden was dying for example. And same thing when he killed Walker last season.
True. Maybe that was his final act of crazy jihad-Brody tho. Now that Walden's dead, perhaps he's run out of motivation. Maybe he'd rather just start over and try to find peace, run away with Carrie, and turn the keys of his family over to Mike.
It goes against the "Brody is trolling" theory obviously, but I think it's the other side.
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ETA: Also just wanted to say I fricking hate when Brody starts having those fricking panic attacks, the way he's breathing and shite. The same way I hate Carrie when she starts getting the crazy eyes in intense situations.
It gets old. I'm re-watching Season 1 again and Carrie and Brody were so calm and non-spastic...it's quite refreshing.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 5:39 pm to Billy Mays
Killing Walden was his revenge for Issa, I just don't think he has any more motivation.... unless Dana gets whacked...
Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:59 pm to CE Tiger
It would have to be Dana getting killed by the CIA and he could make a full reversal. However Roya did seem pretty sure of herself in that interrogation and Nazir was confident as well. Maybe they let themselves get into the position for Brody to take over? Maybe we don't know the "real" Nicholas Brody and he is playing the CIA and Carrie?
That could be really interesting.
That could be really interesting.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:38 pm to brbengalgal
Sunday can't come soon enough
I've been trying to figure out a way our girl Dana could die:
a) CIA (accidental) - Quinn snipes her on accident while aiming at Brody during a father/daughter embrace. The CIA storms their house and accidentally unloads on Dana. Both scenarios are silly, but this show gets silly.
b) Terrorist (accidental or targeted) - Nazir's henchmen (if he has any left) or the mole kill Dana. Could be collateral damage.
c) Suicide - Dana is depressed. She might not be able to deal with Brody's abrupt departure for Turks and Caicos.
d) Random - Finn and Dana go for a grieving joyride post-funeral. Finn's Benz careens off a a cliff into a gully due to Finn delving into his father's bottle of Louis XIII whiskey to deal with his pain. The world keeps spinning.
I've been trying to figure out a way our girl Dana could die:
a) CIA (accidental) - Quinn snipes her on accident while aiming at Brody during a father/daughter embrace. The CIA storms their house and accidentally unloads on Dana. Both scenarios are silly, but this show gets silly.
b) Terrorist (accidental or targeted) - Nazir's henchmen (if he has any left) or the mole kill Dana. Could be collateral damage.
c) Suicide - Dana is depressed. She might not be able to deal with Brody's abrupt departure for Turks and Caicos.
d) Random - Finn and Dana go for a grieving joyride post-funeral. Finn's Benz careens off a a cliff into a gully due to Finn delving into his father's bottle of Louis XIII whiskey to deal with his pain. The world keeps spinning.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:11 pm to Billy Mays
am i the only one that doesnt have a problem with estes trying to take out brody? at the end of the day, brody is still a terrorist and traitor. he showed his true colors while walden was dying.
saul is being a huge pussy by trying to protect brody.
saul is being a huge pussy by trying to protect brody.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 9:21 am to Michael J Cocks
Just re-watched the trailer and the new teaser:
LINK
Seems like something happens to Estes. Either Saul gets him thrown out, or he dies.
In the preview trailer, it looks like Saul shows up on the scene of a terrorist attack - there is a tattered America flag hanging, ambulances, etc. I'm guessing Estes gets taken out and Saul gets his position as Deputy Director.
Also, in the preview it looks like Saul is offering Carrie a position in the CIA as an intelligence officer.
It's obvious something has happens with Estes, because as of last episode Saul was all but kicked out of the CIA.
LINK
Seems like something happens to Estes. Either Saul gets him thrown out, or he dies.
In the preview trailer, it looks like Saul shows up on the scene of a terrorist attack - there is a tattered America flag hanging, ambulances, etc. I'm guessing Estes gets taken out and Saul gets his position as Deputy Director.
Also, in the preview it looks like Saul is offering Carrie a position in the CIA as an intelligence officer.
It's obvious something has happens with Estes, because as of last episode Saul was all but kicked out of the CIA.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 9:22 am to Billy Mays
If that happens
CIA staaaaaaaaacked
quinn is fuuuuuuuuuuuucked
CIA staaaaaaaaacked
quinn is fuuuuuuuuuuuucked
Posted on 12/12/12 at 9:44 am to Byron Bojangles III
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CIA staaaaaaaaacked
quinn is fuuuuuuuuuuuucked
all of this ^^
Yeah I can see something happening where Saul takes over but can't get to Quinn in time to call him off.
Speaking of Quinn, they preview has him with a silencer/handgun in a dark room, and also in broad daylight with a giant arse sniper rifle.
This clown is packing some serious heat. He's the Kellen Winslow III of Homeland.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:33 am to Billy Mays
The way I see it, next season can go 1 of 2 ways:
1) Both Carrie and Brody are in exile. This would happen due to Quinn being killed by them, Dana being killed, etc etc. Thus they are on the run all of next season. I just don't think this is that interesting of a storyline and probably not likely.
2)Brody is still a terrorist, he has been playing them all along. I think this is the more likely case. I could see Quinn accidentally killing Dana somehow and brody going balistic and killing Quinn . This doesn't necessarily mean he's a terrorist but he would definitely be on the run.
I'm most curious to find out what Saul is about to do. Is he going to kill Estes? or is something crazier about to happen?
Last episode really picked up this second season, it was much better than a couple of the other episodes.
1) Both Carrie and Brody are in exile. This would happen due to Quinn being killed by them, Dana being killed, etc etc. Thus they are on the run all of next season. I just don't think this is that interesting of a storyline and probably not likely.
2)Brody is still a terrorist, he has been playing them all along. I think this is the more likely case. I could see Quinn accidentally killing Dana somehow and brody going balistic and killing Quinn . This doesn't necessarily mean he's a terrorist but he would definitely be on the run.
I'm most curious to find out what Saul is about to do. Is he going to kill Estes? or is something crazier about to happen?
Last episode really picked up this second season, it was much better than a couple of the other episodes.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 11:37 am to hiltacular
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1) Both Carrie and Brody are in exile. This would happen due to Quinn being killed by them, Dana being killed, etc etc. Thus they are on the run all of next season. I just don't think this is that interesting of a storyline and probably not likely.
I think there's a chance. I don't think there's any possibility Carrie and Brody live happily ever after in a 2 bedroom walk-up in Dupont Circle
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2)Brody is still a terrorist, he has been playing them all along. I think this is the more likely case. I could see Quinn accidentally killing Dana somehow and brody going balistic and killing Quinn . This doesn't necessarily mean he's a terrorist but he would definitely be on the run.
I'm on board with something similar to this theory.
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I'm most curious to find out what Saul is about to do. Is he going to kill Estes? or is something crazier about to happen?
Saul isn't a killer. Dude prefers any alternative method to lethal force. He's marshmellowy soft
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:14 pm to CE Tiger
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Killing Walden was his revenge for Issa, I just don't think he has any more motivation
Wasn't Estes involved in the coverup of the drone strike as well? I think Nazir and Brody have one last trick up their sleeves for Estes.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:27 pm to LSUSilverfox
afaik, nazir only spoke about targeting walden for issa's death. nazir's plans have always focused on walden. now that walden and nazir are gone, we will see if brody starts compiling his own hit list.
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