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re: Great film scores in bad movies

Posted on 10/9/26 at 9:21 am to
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 10/9/26 at 9:21 am to
I was really excited when I found out that Cosmo Sheldrake was scoring the latest Alejandro Inarritu movie, then it came out last weekend and absolutely bombed. So maybe he won't be getting much recognition after all.

Anyway, maybe Digger isn't necessarily bad
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/9/26 at 10:06 pm to
The film itself is a poor attempt at a comedy western, which wastes a good cast.

But the score by Elmer Bernstein is a real rouser

Posted by Muppet
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Posted on 10/9/26 at 10:36 pm to
"Stand Up, We'll March to Denver" will be bumping from my Chevy 1500 if the second civil war ever kicks off.

I like Lifeforce, but the OST for that movie is much more grand than it has any right to be.

Lifeforce
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/9/26 at 10:43 pm to
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"Stand Up, We'll March to Denver" will be bumping from my Chevy 1500 if the second civil war ever kicks off
You venerate the auditory tapestry?
Posted by Muppet
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Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:04 pm to


“Venerate” is perhaps too devotional a term for what I would describe as a sustained aesthetic receptivity to the ways in which a carefully constructed score can transcend, complicate, or even retroactively ennoble the cinematic material to which it has been affixed. There are films whose narrative architecture is, at best, pedestrian; yet whose musical accompaniment possesses such tonal sophistication, thematic coherence, and emotive intelligence that one begins to suspect the composer was engaged in a far more interesting artistic project than the director. In those cases, yes, I suppose I do find myself admiring the auditory tapestry, not merely as ornamentation, but as a parallel text operating beneath the visible one, occasionally rescuing it from its own mediocrity. But if by “venerate” you mean that I sit alone in a darkened room inhaling deeply and whispering, "Ah, leitmotif," then I fear you’ve mistaken reverence for discernment.

Also, Xanadu is pretty fun to listen to.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:06 pm to
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“Venerate” is perhaps too devotional a term for what I would describe as a sustained aesthetic receptivity to the ways in which a carefully constructed score can transcend, complicate, or even retroactively ennoble the cinematic material to which it has been affixed. There are films whose narrative architecture is, at best, pedestrian; yet whose musical accompaniment possesses such tonal sophistication, thematic coherence, and emotive intelligence that one begins to suspect the composer was engaged in a far more interesting artistic project than the director. In those cases, yes, I suppose I do find myself admiring the auditory tapestry, not merely as ornamentation, but as a parallel text operating beneath the visible one, occasionally rescuing it from its own mediocrity. But if by “venerate” you mean that I sit alone in a darkened room inhaling deeply and whispering, "Ah, leitmotif," then I fear you’ve mistaken reverence for discernment.
so you haven't changed at all?
Posted by Muppet
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Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:18 pm to
You remember my 21 year old self a lot better than I do. It's been 15 years since I posted here regularly. I just think it's funny that apparently my ancient scrabble speech has stuck with you for so long.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:31 pm to
You were very memorable. It was a fascinating exercise in social psychology -- your shtick of pretentiously employing arcane expressions (and half the time using them wrong), and other posters anointing you a great intellectual b/c of it.

It's one of 2 things I recall about you (you may not want to discuss the other thing)

But if you've learned your lesson and paid your debt to society, I don't object to you associating with civilized folks.
Posted by Muppet
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Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:43 pm to
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and other posters anointing you a great intellectual b/c of it.


Didn't think you would make the core of your grievance so plain.

I apologize for winning the "smartest poster" award when I was 18. If this still troubles you, I will return it. I was a self-impressed teenager and a medium-sized fish in a small pond. Maybe someone should start a thread for all the people who want to IM with me now apparently since I'm back.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:48 pm to
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I apologize for winning the "smartest poster" award when I was 18. If this still troubles you, I will return it.
no, you deserve it
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/10/26 at 2:33 am to
I came here to post Xanadu. Jeff Lynne’s songs by ELO were great but the movie was so cheesy awful and lost money.

The soundtrack album reached number two on the UK Albums Chart and number four on the US Billboard 200. It has been certified double platinum in the US and gold in the UK. It contained five top-20 singles:

"Magic" – Olivia Newton-John: No. 1 Billboard Hot 100 (four weeks), No. 1 adult contemporary (five weeks), certified gold
"Xanadu" – Olivia Newton-John/Electric Light Orchestra: No. 8 Hot 100 (one week), No. 2 adult contemporary (one week), No. 1 UK singles chart (two weeks)
"All Over the World" – Electric Light Orchestra: No. 13 pop (one week), No. 45 adult contemporary (one week)
"I'm Alive" – Electric Light Orchestra: No. 16 pop (one week), No. 48 adult contemporary (one week), certified gold
"Suddenly" – Olivia Newton-John/Cliff Richard: No. 20 pop (one week), No. 4 adult contemporary (one week)
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