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re: GoT S7 E5 "Eastwatch" MAESTERS THREAD
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:03 pm to ell_13
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:03 pm to ell_13
I was surprised at that amount as well given the visuals of the row boat - but that is probably based more on the books than the series.
It allowed for them to have a larger force in the BotB which was then able to hold until the final moments when the Knights of the Vale showed up.
It allowed for them to have a larger force in the BotB which was then able to hold until the final moments when the Knights of the Vale showed up.
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:12 pm to blueboy
quote:And readers of the LotR knew the eagles existed and had come to the rescue before (tHobit). It doesn't mean it's still not DEM.
None of that was unexpected.
Stanis going north is ignored for a full season and isn't even brought up in the books until it happens.
And no one knew who sansa's letter goes to or what it says. It's purpose in the plot isn't to hint us about the Vale coming, it's about showing/creating mistrust with her and Jon.
quote:Oh. Troll. Should have known. frick me.
And yeah, Jon inspired others, who then inspired others, so through the transitive property, Jon inspired them. Absolutely
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:14 pm to Sneaky__Sally
quote:There are almost no details in the books about Hardhome. Just that it happened. Half the ships crashed when sent and the wildlings mistrusted the ships because of the slavers that had been sent so often. Probably even few survived in the books than the show. Not sure how it's relevant since Jon wasn't even there for that one.
I was surprised at that amount as well given the visuals of the row boat - but that is probably based more on the books than the series.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:16 pm to ell_13
quote:Yes it does.
It doesn't mean it's still not DEM.
quote:We knew he had an army and that they were going north to the Wall.
Stanis going north is ignored for a full season and isn't even brought up in the books until it happens.
quote:No, you're right. I'm sure she was writing to her serving girl about hot Westerosi guys. No one could have figured out what she was really doing.
And no one knew who sansa's letter goes to or what it says
quote:No it isn't. That's a far more recent development.
It's purpose in the plot isn't to hint us about the Vale coming, it's about showing/creating mistrust with her and Jon.
maybe you and the others need to ogay ackbay otay ethay odorHay eadthray ithway ethay otheray umbassesday.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:21 pm to blueboy
quote:You can argue this all you want, but it's still a well-known example of DEM that's been talked about and discussed all over since it first happened. That's not really up for debate. Same for the BotB.
We knew he had an army and that they were going north to the Wall.
quote:Um, it developed literally right after it happened.
That's a far more recent development.
quote:I vote you write all your posts like this. They'll be just as irrelevant but with fewer people reading them.
maybe you and the others need to ogay ackbay otay ethay odorHay eadthray ithway ethay otheray umbassesday.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:24 pm to blueboy
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And yeah, so through the transitive property,
As usual...
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:26 pm to blueboy
"OMG, like, Jon is such a great leader that he inspired Mel to see the Wall in the fire so she would tell Stanis to go north to defeat the wildlings at the exact moment Jon is bargaining with Mance! Stanis obviously did that for Jon since Jon was the leader of the Night's Watch!!!"
-blueboy 8/15/17
-blueboy 8/15/17
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:28 pm to ell_13
quote:Why wouldn't I? It's the correct argument.
You can argue this all you want,
quote:So, after, not before or during. Thank you.
Um, it developed literally right after it happened.
quote:That was Valyrian. Sorry. I thought you were cool.
I vote you write all your posts like this
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:29 pm to ell_13
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quote:
I was surprised at that amount as well given the visuals of the row boat - but that is probably based more on the books than the series.
There are almost no details in the books about Hardhome. Just that it happened. Half the ships crashed when sent and the wildlings mistrusted the ships because of the slavers that had been sent so often. Probably even few survived in the books than the show. Not sure how it's relevant since Jon wasn't even there for that one.
I was just putting it out there since i haven't read the most recent book and only read a Feast For Crows when it first came out so my memory is hazy at this point. (I am reading complete series until at least until the next one is put out - may wait until the final one seems to be nearing completion in 10 years to do a full read / re-read of the series).
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:31 pm to blueboy
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The overthinkers are wearing me down. It's making the show less fun to follow. Theorizing about future events is one thing, but obsessing over the military command abilities of a fictional character is, as I said, masturbation. He won. They won. That's really all we need to know. I'm not sure what great commander would have won at the Wall and BotB without more help, but I'm not obsessing over that either.
Ah. Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I get tired of certain discussions from time to time myself.
But the one thing I always really enjoy about this particular board is the ability of a majority of posters to be able to engage in discussions and differences of opinion without resorting to attacking one another. Let's face it, not many boards are like that, even on Tiger Droppings.
I think it's because opinions regarding movies and television are inherently subjective things. It's largely a matter of each person's individual taste. People don't feel the need to be "right" at all costs.
These GoT episode threads in particular are wonderful for great discussions about the show and subject matters arising from it. And if I get tired on one discussion, no problem - another or several others will pop up.
Of course, I kinda enjoy talking about the different aspects of these fictional characters. It just adds that much more depth to the world created through the books and the show for me.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:31 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Sneaky__Sally
Why do you hate Jon Snow?
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:33 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I don't think i "hate" him, some of his decisions frustrate me.
Also his brooding demeanor, "we fight with what we have" decisions, and he is too honorable / doesn't have enough fun for my tastes (fighting the ice zombies and being murdered will probably do that to a man).
Similar to Perrin in Wheel of Time if you have read that series.
Also his brooding demeanor, "we fight with what we have" decisions, and he is too honorable / doesn't have enough fun for my tastes (fighting the ice zombies and being murdered will probably do that to a man).
Similar to Perrin in Wheel of Time if you have read that series.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:34 pm to blueboy
quote:Something I've only ever seen an idiot like you argue.
Why wouldn't I? It's the correct argument.
quote:When else would it be? I said the reason for her letter was a catalyst for the mistrust between her and Jon not to tip the viewer off about tVale coming to the rescue at the exact last moment. So... Thank you?
So, after, not before or during. Thank you.
quote:Nyke cool.
thought you were cool.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:45 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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don't think i "hate" him, some of his decisions frustrate me.
He bases his decisions on what HE sees in front of him. We know everything that's going on, he doesn't. Much like the BotB, he didn't know the KotV were coming, they needed the castle or they'd be trapped outside with no shelter, if he did know they were coming, he'd have stalled until they got there.
We're looking at everything through a third person omniscient pov. So yeah, it is easy for some to say he's an idiot. But he's not looking at things through our lenses, he's looking at it from his own. His decisions for the most part are sound.
The only two I can really think of that aren't is him traveling to Dragonstone (debatable if it's dumb or not) and going North again with the dream team.
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Also his brooding demeanor, "we fight with what we have" decisions, and he is too honorable / doesn't have enough fun for my tastes (fighting the ice zombies and being murdered will probably do that to a man).
He doesn't have time to have fun, he's got to get people North to fight the real enemy. And it's not like he's just a brooding person on the show, he's written as somebody who is kinda sullen.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:51 pm to ell_13
quote:Just keep readin your own link and it will come to you eventually. Even Jaime Lannister was a little slow.
Something I've only ever seen an idiot like you argue.
quote:But it wasn't. It was, in fact, to get help from the Vale. That was proven, and is undeniable. The friction came later. You're just talking out of your arse.
I said the reason for her letter was a catalyst for the mistrust between her and Jon
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:52 pm to Sneaky__Sally
quote:
Similar to Perrin in Wheel of Time if you have read that series.
Bruh GTFO with that shite comparison
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:54 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I know he didn't know that they were coming, i just think fighting with what you have and then running out basically condemned them to slaughter in open battle and were poor decisions. I can't sit here and say exactly what else he could have done, but some level of trickery or at a minimum sticking to your plan once you got there would be a good start for me at least.
And then add in the the northbound dream team (i like that phrasing) and its a couple pretty poor decisions in my mind.
I know - you just asked me why i didn't like him and those are contributing factors.
And then add in the the northbound dream team (i like that phrasing) and its a couple pretty poor decisions in my mind.
quote:
He doesn't have time to have fun, he's got to get people North to fight the real enemy. And it's not like he's just a brooding person on the show, he's written as somebody who is kinda sullen.
I know - you just asked me why i didn't like him and those are contributing factors.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:55 pm to CorporateTiger
quote:
quote:
Similar to Perrin in Wheel of Time if you have read that series.
Bruh GTFO with that shite comparison
But they are both annoyingly honorable.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:59 pm to Sneaky__Sally
jon snow is my favorite, but kit Harrington has zero chemistry with the actresses who play his love interest.
so jon snow hasn't been very compelling this season as he's just been standing around...that's about to be rectified.
so jon snow hasn't been very compelling this season as he's just been standing around...that's about to be rectified.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:59 pm to blueboy
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Just keep readin your own link and it will come to you eventually
quote:No. The reason she wrote the letter, from a plot perspective, is to start the friction with Jon. She disagreed and wrote it without his knowledge. That was the point. The viewers didn't know who she was contacting or why (LF was obviously a good guess). All we knew was that she was doing something behind his back. It wasn't apparent until the Vale showed up... unexpectedly... at the last moment... to save the day. D.E.M.
But it wasn't. It was, in fact, to get help from the Vale. That was proven, and is undeniable. The friction came later.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 3:19 pm
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