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re: GoT S7 E4 "The Spoils of War" MAESTERS Thread

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Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:08 pm to
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I just said that, but if thee end game in the story is for Varys to be against Dany, him being a traitor would be a good way to depict that on the show.


Even on the show, it's been noted that Varys doesn't necessarily work for one person but works for the "good of the realm". Who would he betray Dany for at this point that would be to the good of the realm? Jon?

I just don't see him siding with Ceresi.
Posted by nerd guy
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:08 pm to
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Have you even read the thread

Nope.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:08 pm to
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She was literally toying with the best swordsman or woman in Westeros.


Let's not get carried away here. Brienne is a great swords-woman. But she ain't the best in Westeros.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:10 pm to
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Next week's preview kinda says different.


yep, but in the preview Jon just kind of stands there like a boss while a humongous dragon lands in front of him and roars.

I think that Drogon is going to respect Jon for not flinching.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:10 pm to
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But she ain't the best in Westeros.



I don't know if he was exaggerating, but Ramsey Bolton made mention of the fact that stories tell of Jon Snow as being the best swordsman in Westeros.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:10 pm to
kind of lame to prolong Jamie's life right there.

He should of died IMO.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:11 pm to
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I think that Drogon is going to respect Jon for not flinching.




Or he senses that he has Targaryen blood.
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:11 pm to
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Next weeks previews also showed Jon face to face with Rhaegal. We riddin'


Dany was riding Rhaegal in that shot. Maybe Jon rides Rhaegal and Dany rides Jon??
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:11 pm to
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No, I think Jon just freaked when she asked him "Isn't their survival, more important than your pride?" That was the exact same question he asked asked Mance, when he wanted him to bend a knee to Stannis.


I think Jon is still trying to see if she'd be a good person to rule.
Posted by King of the North
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:12 pm to
He is going to touch that dragon or something
Posted by consumptive_use
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:13 pm to
Watched it with CC.

Flee, you idiot.
You idiot.
You fricking idiot.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:14 pm to
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Isn't their survival, more important than your pride?"

He should've said "bitch I should ask you the same question"
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:14 pm to
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I don't know if he was exaggerating, but Ramsey Bolton made mention of the fact that stories tell of Jon Snow as being the best swordsman in Westeros.


Yeah Jon is probably the best right now in Westeros.

But then you've got Tormund, Bronn, Beric, and The Hound that are still probably better.

The only reason she beat the Hound was he was sick or drunk or something like that in the fight.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:14 pm to
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He should of died IMO.


bullshite. He needs to kill Cersei.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:14 pm to
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Who would he betray Dany for
That's a very good question. Did you catch them mention the Golden Company in this episode? I thought that was interesting, and could provide the answer.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:16 pm to
Jon I don't think is that great of a swordsman. Competent, sure, but he's nowhere near Jaime, Barristan, or the Hound's levels. Hell I'd take Brienne over Jon.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:16 pm to
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That's a very good question. Did you catch them mention the Golden Company in this episode? I thought that was interesting, and could provide the answer.



I wouldn't be surprised if the Iron Bank uses the Golden Company against Ceresi though since he mentions that they do their dirty work.
Posted by King of the North
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:17 pm to
way to much plot amour to die
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:17 pm to
He won't choose Cersei. Show Varys who is shockingly genuine would choose Jon. I could also see Tyrion doing the same both in the show and the books.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:18 pm to
So i've rewatched the scene a few times and still can't understand what Bran said in response to LF saying something about coming back to the chaos that is Westeros now. What is it that Bran said exactly?
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