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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Sn 4 - Offseason Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***

Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:18 pm to
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Did the crows win? How did they defend castle black? Anybody else of note die?



the crows did win, but barely. That man that's been an a-hole to Jon got killed by the redheaded/redbearded wildling. I was fine with that. Then that a-hole that came to the wall from the Kingsguard went and hid like a punk. Jon gave Sam a key and Sam went and opened a door and Jon's wolf came out and did some damage. It almost sounded like there was more than one wolf in the room...just based on what Sam said.
This post was edited on 6/8/14 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:19 pm to
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That man that's been an a-hole to Jon got killed by the redheaded/redbearded wildling.

Umm, no

But almost killed. Seriously injured
This post was edited on 6/8/14 at 9:22 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:20 pm to
Allister Thorne (the a-hole) was still alive when they were dragging him off. I don't believe he's dead.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80695 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:24 pm to
Always amazed that people miss stuff like that.

Dude was very clearly alive when they last showed him.
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42971 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:28 pm to
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You're such a girl


I have been wanting Ygritte to die since the day they met, then I just became a sobbing mess.
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:29 pm to
oh yea, I forgot he got dragged off. I'm still ok with it if he wants to die though.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44932 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:29 pm to
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So is the battle over? I forgot to ask if Ghost is ok and did he get to maul anybody? Is Mance still alive?



No, they were just testing the defense. Tormund Giantsbane was taken captive

Ghost is fine and yes.

Mance and his main force hasn't attacked yet
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42971 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:30 pm to
So was another wolf in there with Ghost?
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:31 pm to
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So was another wolf in there with Ghost?



not that i know of
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:31 pm to
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Mance and his main force hasn't attacked yet


Well shite, so this was just the start? So it was just the group that was in Moles town that attacked. I'm assuming then that this storyline is going to run past this season.
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42971 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:34 pm to
the Moles town wildlings got inside Castle Black, the wildlings beyond the wall tried but got scared off when the giants got killed and the big wooly mammoth freaked out and stomped on somebody.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:39 pm to
This episode was bullshite. Next episode should be great and 4 hours long as well since they have a ton to rap up that they just shite the bed on this episode.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:58 pm to
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Well shite, so this was just the start?

Definitely, stay tuned.

quote:

I'm assuming then that this storyline is going to run past this season.

Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42971 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:46 pm to
The finale is 4 hours long???!!!!
Posted by LiguhTiguh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:49 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 11:50 pm to
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The finale is 4 hours long???!!!!


It's the culmination of all those minutes they've cut out of episodes the past two seasons.
This post was edited on 6/8/14 at 11:51 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109287 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 12:56 am to
Not 4 hours, they just have a lot to cover if they intend to finish the third book this season. Seems to me some things will need to be done next season.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:49 pm to
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This episode was bullshite.


this is the middle ground thread, not hodor. so idk why people are saying to "stop." im honestly curious why you hated the episode. from a non book reader, i was literally on the edge of my couch the whole time. it had my adrenaline pumping pretty good.

without spoiling the show, did you hate it because it was only the wall fight and not other stories or was it just horribly adapted? keep in mind that they obviously havent shown the whole battle yet. but was anything butchered as you seem to imply? can you shed light on it without spoiling the show or is it too interconnected?

i mean thats why i like the middle ground vs hodor thread. you can learn the differences and insights without being spoiled.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44932 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:12 pm to
I can't speak for him, I liked the action and thought that well done. I do wish they would have wrapped that story line up. Spent an entire episode at the Wall and Mance Rayder still has the Watch outnumbered 1,000 to one. You have to spend 10-15 minutes on that next week and not other stories.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12483 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:16 pm to
yeah i mean thats obviously the biggest complain. its the second to last episode and you didnt advance all the other plotlines at all. it reminded me of the "blackwater" episode though. they clearly pick one battle for a season and focus an entire episode on it.

its possible they leave this wall plot unfinished and pick it up again at the beginning of the next season.
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