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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Sn 4 - Offseason Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***

Posted on 4/9/14 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 5:36 pm to
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They definitely killed that theory.


No question.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 6:28 pm to
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Along with the Lannister Honeypot theory.



would it be a spoiler to tell me what the Lannister Honeypot theory is?
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 6:29 pm to
No. Its just a theory that Talisa was a Lannister spy the whole time but it doesnt really pan out since they killed her.
Posted by BlackleafBaller
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 6:50 pm to
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Also Dunk and Egg would be good as a miniseries. Maybe a five episode arc?


Wouldn't mind this, but I think they would need to start with the pilot covering the entirety of the Blackfyre Rebellion. From there they can lead off into the Dunk and Egg storyline.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 7:14 pm to
Still would prefer covering Robert's Rebellion first.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 7:46 pm to
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The books were ambiguous about a potential heir for Robb Stark. His wife simply disappears from the storyline after the red wedding and so there was a bunch of theories about her and a potential heir.


She was in the next book, it was from a Lannister's POV. Since she is dead on the show...you find out she was on birth control, & has been forbidden to marry or have relations for the next two years. She was being sent somewhere under heavy guard. It was ambiguous what she and her family were aware of.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:00 pm to
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No. Its just a theory that Talisa was a Lannister spy the whole time but it doesnt really pan out since they killed her.


Exactly; someone compiled clips in a YouTube video to show the theory and it made a lot of sense last season when I had first started reading the books. I believed the theory until the Red Wedding...then realized that went out the window.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:04 pm to
Then they had her writing suspicious letters in Old Valyrian to a "relative" which added fuel to the honeypot fire but guess that was just the showrunners fricking with us.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:34 pm to
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Lannister Honeypot video that was speculated about last season



holy cow! I remember thinking it odd when was laying in bed writing a letter, but that video has me convinced that she was a spy for sure!
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:42 pm to
It's definitely a good video. A lot of book readers speculated about it last season and we were all clueless until they added in the pregnancy and her presence at the Red Wedding..then the theory died with Talisa dying.
Posted by TaxmanMSU
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:45 pm to
Well if she was a spy then they killed their own spy.
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42971 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:46 pm to
maybe she really was a spy and it messed things up for Tywin when she got pregnant so he had to kill her too. And maybe that's why they stabbed her stomach first. I don't remember them making an announcement that she was pregnant. How did that random dude know to stab her there unless he knew she was prego?
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 8:48 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 8:48 pm to
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Well if she was a spy then they killed their own spy.


Enhanced abortion technique. Couldn't let Robb's heir live.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:33 pm to
Walder Frey comments earlier on in the episode that he's seen a few bellies and can tell what goes on under a woman's dress.
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42971 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:46 pm to
ah, true.
Posted by ladytiger118
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20922 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:53 pm to
I did a rewatch recently and remember when he said that. Plus her belly was round/looking pregnant at that point.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:05 pm to
So, did I hallucinate the posts to this thread last season, claiming (after the Red Wedding) that Talisa's name in the book was Jane something and that they had a kid with a really goofy name"? Something with "bell" in it?

I'm not searching, for the results will be dark and full of spoilers.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 7:14 pm to
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Something with "bell" in it?


the frey's had a retarded son/grandson nick named jinglebell (Aegon Frey), and thats who Catelyn kills at the red wedding instead of the shows portrayal of the wife


and you are full of shite, jingle bell was never brought up in this thread last year so you read that while reading spoilers/ the crackpot thread which you are known to do
This post was edited on 4/10/14 at 7:18 pm
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42971 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:23 pm to
well, I don't remember that discussion last year, but I also tried to stay out of the middle ground thread. BUT I did read up to the red wedding last night and Rob's wife was not even at the red wedding. There was a jinglebell that I think was Lord Frey's grandson, and he was in attendance at the Red Wedding.
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