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re: Give me opinions on Joker without spoilers.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 3:23 pm to LuckyTiger
Posted on 10/9/19 at 3:23 pm to LuckyTiger
After the success of the Killing Joke (Where the Joker is actually strangled to death by Batman) DC decided that a one off elseworlds story was kinda maybe canon and ran with it.
It works but there is no definitive origin, which The Dark Knight went with.
In Death of the Family it's revealed Joker knows who all the Bats are. Bruce drives Joker away by bluffing he knows.
The Three Jokers has been kind of a hanging thread in DC.
Batman tries to use the Mobius Chair to get Joker's Identity and gets back that there's 3 Jokers, then another DC reboot happened and Geoff Johns and the story got pushed aside.
It works but there is no definitive origin, which The Dark Knight went with.
In Death of the Family it's revealed Joker knows who all the Bats are. Bruce drives Joker away by bluffing he knows.
The Three Jokers has been kind of a hanging thread in DC.
Batman tries to use the Mobius Chair to get Joker's Identity and gets back that there's 3 Jokers, then another DC reboot happened and Geoff Johns and the story got pushed aside.
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 3:27 pm to 9Fiddy
Ledger
Hamill
Phoenix
Nicholson
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Hamill
Phoenix
Nicholson
Romero
Posted on 10/9/19 at 3:47 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
It's gonna be hard for me to place Phoenix.
It's not that he had a bad performance. No Joker really has other than Jack playing Jack and Leto not being told to just fricking chill.
It's that he really didn't play the Joker. This isn't a not muh Joker thing.
Caesar, hands down best Boners Joker you could ask for.
Even Nicholson played a good Bronze age Joker.
Hamil the best amalgamation.
Ledger the best take on Modern and Bronze.
Even Leto's bad Timmverse/that time two-face and joker admitted they were prison gay impersonation/all-star was at least the Joker, somewhere in it.
Phoenix played an emotionally, physically, and mentally broken man but Arthur was more a downtrodden every man, even when he got to the end. The thing with the Joker is he's such a miserable dark thing that really only the Batman should be able to sympathize with him.
To try to have viewers honestly be open to him deserving it, is outside the character.
It's not that he had a bad performance. No Joker really has other than Jack playing Jack and Leto not being told to just fricking chill.
It's that he really didn't play the Joker. This isn't a not muh Joker thing.
Caesar, hands down best Boners Joker you could ask for.
Even Nicholson played a good Bronze age Joker.
Hamil the best amalgamation.
Ledger the best take on Modern and Bronze.
Even Leto's bad Timmverse/that time two-face and joker admitted they were prison gay impersonation/all-star was at least the Joker, somewhere in it.
Phoenix played an emotionally, physically, and mentally broken man but Arthur was more a downtrodden every man, even when he got to the end. The thing with the Joker is he's such a miserable dark thing that really only the Batman should be able to sympathize with him.
To try to have viewers honestly be open to him deserving it, is outside the character.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 6:17 pm to TH03
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I was stoned while watching so cut me some slack
Posted on 10/9/19 at 6:39 pm to ZappBrannigan
And that's a very honest assessment.
For most of the movie he wasn't the Joker or anything resembling the Joker, so it's hard to place him on that alone. Seeing the pieces slowly come together was so fascinating though.
In the precious few moments we did get to observe him in at least a partially transformed state, the possibilities that he opened to the imagination are indeed frightening.
For most of the movie he wasn't the Joker or anything resembling the Joker, so it's hard to place him on that alone. Seeing the pieces slowly come together was so fascinating though.
In the precious few moments we did get to observe him in at least a partially transformed state, the possibilities that he opened to the imagination are indeed frightening.
This post was edited on 10/9/19 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 10/9/19 at 6:44 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
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For most of the movie he wasn't the Joker
This is a big thing some people are overlooking
Posted on 10/10/19 at 4:38 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
Yeah right
Phoenix passed ledger the moment he agreed to play the Joker
Phoenix passed ledger the moment he agreed to play the Joker
Posted on 10/10/19 at 6:55 am to DJ3K
I loved Ledger as The Joker. I never really cared much for villains prior to that, but I found myself actually cheering for him in The Dark Knight. His performance was exceptional.
That said, I feel like Phoenix took things to an even greater level with his portrayal.
That said, I feel like Phoenix took things to an even greater level with his portrayal.
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