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re: Game of Thrones S6:E3 "Oathbreaker" Bookreader Thread

Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:20 pm to
you wait

you'll see


you'll ALL see!
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:21 pm to
Lord walder Frey's 8th wife dies and A Girl sneaks into the Crossing pretending to be a candidate for #9 and does the deed
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:22 pm to
Put the milk of the poppy down man
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:27 pm to
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Arya stark bro


And I pointed out that the Faceless Men sure as hell would not send Arya after him. They know it's personal for Arya, and Arya would be literally the worst choice to send after Walder Frey. It's possible she leaves on her own accord, but that's it.
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:33 pm to
Had the show developed Aryas warging ability or wolf dreams this would be easier


However no cat was present when fighting the waif

I can't determine a viable scenario where a girl ends up in the Riverlands. There has to be some payoff for her training though. She isn't just gonna become no one and spend her days washing dead bodies I hope
Posted by Warfarer
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:39 pm to
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You do realize Castle Black has no walls to defend it from the south and hardly any men? Ramsay wouldn't break a sweat taking Castle Black.



Any men with the Night's Watch plus the army of Wildlings would be a tough fight with an intelligent leader. Drawing him away from the wall cuts the numbers down. Plus, in the books the Wildling numbers are much higher than we have seen since they occupied several towers and farmlands.

Does Ramsey know anything about the wall? Serious question, he might know nothing of it and not know if it is defended or not.
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:41 pm to
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Does Ramsey know anything about the wall? Serious question, he might know nothing of it and not know if it is defended or not.



in the episode where he killed roose, i think there was a conversation about attacking castle black becaus eit had no defenses to the south
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:45 pm to
He probably isn't aware of intimate details like the Black Gate in the Nightfort, but probably is aware it is defended to some extend
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:57 pm to
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And I pointed out that the Faceless Men sure as hell would not send Arya after him. They know it's personal for Arya, and Arya would be literally the worst choice to send after Walder Frey. It's possible she leaves on her own accord, but that's it.
That's assuming she becomes a true faceless man after they confront her with needle. She hid it in the rocks and they almost certainly know about it.

The whole "it was given to Arya, lost, came back to Weasel, lost.......it doesn't belong to Arya. It belongs to me" is not going to fly, IMO. "Me" is someone. Arya is claiming to be no one.

Ergo, Arya goes back to Westeros as Arya, but with a lot of nasty skills.
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:59 pm to
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Ergo, Arya goes back to Westeros as Arya, but with a lot of nasty skills.




I see this as the case, but her having to always be on teh run from the faceless men because she learned their skills and secrets and then left

unless they tell her to leave because she hasnt truly been "no one" the whole time
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 5:05 pm to
Alfie Allen has such a derp face.

The Greyjoys are all unfortunate looking.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 5:13 pm to
So far in the books, the only punishment for not wanting to be no one is being thrown out of the House of Black and White, not death.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 5:16 pm to
I agree she becomes a Rouge agent, but I think that will be more a season ender than in an episode for her to get back to Westeros in time to kill Walder Frey.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 5:19 pm to
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I can't determine a viable scenario where a girl ends up in the Riverlands. There has to be some payoff for her training though. She isn't just gonna become no one and spend her days washing dead bodies I hope


Arya's arc is the most mysterious to me. I really don't know where it's headed. In the books I think she'll kill Varys, but seeing how radically different Varys is in the show, I can't say that at all as even probable.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 5:41 pm to
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I agree she becomes a Rouge agent, but I think that will be more a season ender than in an episode for her to get back to Westeros in time to kill Walder Frey.
Yeah, I don't think she'll have time to do that either.
Posted by Warfarer
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 5:59 pm to
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Arya's arc is the most mysterious to me. I really don't know where it's headed. In the books I think she'll kill Varys, but seeing how radically different Varys is in the show, I can't say that at all as even probable.


The show will have a tough time timing her return to Westeros, much more so than the books will. I do think that the return of her sight signifies a completion of her training as a faceless man though and they might set her to task in this season. I just have no idea where they take her. I would also be surprised if the Faceless Men would allow to walk away from them without a fight. I could see her killing someone on her list and taking their identity without the Faceless Men knowing and leaving under that guise and then setting up a small house of Black and White in westeros.
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 6:07 pm to
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Rouge agent


You mean...KGB?

What makes your post look funny?
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Posted by putt23
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 6:07 pm to
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You do realize Castle Black has no walls to defend it from the south and hardly any men? Ramsay wouldn't break a sweat taking Castle Black. Any men with the Night's Watch plus the army of Wildlings would be a tough fight with an intelligent leader. Drawing him away from the wall cuts the numbers down. Plus, in the books the Wildling numbers are much higher than we have seen since they occupied several towers and farmlands. Does Ramsey know anything about the wall? Serious question, he might know nothing of it and not know if it is defended or not.


We have to remember that it probably won't just be Jon leading them. He has Davos now, and he's been in plenty of battles at sea and on land.
Posted by Warfarer
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 6:12 pm to
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We have to remember that it probably won't just be Jon leading them. He has Davos now, and he's been in plenty of battles at sea and on land.



Where is the last place we saw davos in the book, on the way to get Rickon? I guess it is plausible that Davos does retrieve Rickon and delivers him to the North and still gets to the wall to join Jon putting Rickon and Davos in near the same spots as where they would be.
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 6:27 pm to
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Where is the last place we saw davos in the book, on the way to get Rickon? I guess it is plausible that Davos does retrieve Rickon and delivers him to the North and still gets to the wall to join Jon putting Rickon and Davos in near the same spots as where they would be.


Yes he's on his way to find the rick in the book after his death was faked by Manderly.

On the show I don't think Davos has ever said Rickon's name, but they aren't that far from each other.

After Jon being brought back I would think Davos is only following him, so Jon doesn't need to lead an entire Wildling army by himself. The Wildlings have numbers but aren't used to fight armies. They outnumbered Stannis by a lot and that battle, on tv, lasted like a minute

I'm still hoping since Rickon has been with the Umbers for like 3 seasons it's all a trick.

There was those spoilers though about Rickon when Jon and Ramsay meet on the battlefield. I hope that's not the case
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