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re: Game Of Thrones S5:E3 "High Sparrow" BOOK READERS
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:30 pm to YumYum Sauce
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:30 pm to YumYum Sauce
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There's a wedding for the Bolton dickhole. Lord Manderly (not introduced thus far) serves up 3 of the Frey sons in giant pies at the wedding feast. They don't know what they are eating the whole time. Hilarity ensues.
Pretty much. In the books Manderly is a staunch Stark ally. In the books he hatches a larger plan that deceives the Frey's, the Boltons, and the Lannisters, of which the pie ordeal is just one small piece of it.
I would go deeper into explaining the larger plan, but I don't want to spoil anything just incase the show ends up putting that plot in (although I seriously doubt they have the time to do it now).
ETA: Nevermind, I thought this was the middle ground thread for some reason.
Manderly captures Davos, and tricks everyone into thinking he executes him. He then sends Davos after Rickon, pledges to align with Stannis, and sets out to Winterfell to reek havoc at the wedding party. I loved his storyline in ADWD.
And wasn't it Manderly who coined the phrase "he north remembers"?
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 12:41 pm
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:37 pm to Methuselah
It seems to me that Little Finger will use Sansa to eliminate the Boltons and in turn have the North under his control through Sansa.
But, where will this leave us with Stannis eventually coming down to Winterfell himself? I think this will be left for next season. LF and Sansa will work on the demise of the Boltons while Stannis goes through the motions up at the Wall and starts heading south at the end of the season.
But, where will this leave us with Stannis eventually coming down to Winterfell himself? I think this will be left for next season. LF and Sansa will work on the demise of the Boltons while Stannis goes through the motions up at the Wall and starts heading south at the end of the season.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:46 pm to Bamatab
Exactly, the Great Northern Conspiracy. Lots of cool things I want to explain about it but I don't want to get banned. 
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:51 pm to SundayFunday
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Exactly, the Great Northern Conspiracy. Lots of cool things I want to explain about it but I don't want to get banned
well this is a book reader thread so it be ok.
and here is the best site I have ever seen for this for those that wish know what we speak of.
the great northern Conspiracy
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:55 pm to 68wDoc68w
Awesome. So the best part for me that may be true about this is that none of the northern lords, including Manderly, who are "supporting" the Boltons at winterfell during the wedding and ensuing snow storm plan on surviving.
They are following the great northern tradition of the older men "Going out to hunt" during the long winters.
They are following the great northern tradition of the older men "Going out to hunt" during the long winters.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:58 pm to SundayFunday
I don't know if all them plan on not surviving, but Manderly knows that he probably wont make it back to white Harbor, that why left his son there.
but if haven't read that site I put up go to and read, its a wealth of knowledge
but if haven't read that site I put up go to and read, its a wealth of knowledge
Posted on 4/27/15 at 1:14 pm to 68wDoc68w
Oh yeah I've read those already. I read parts 1-7 but Ill check the rest. Thanks 
Posted on 4/27/15 at 1:21 pm to 68wDoc68w
One fun fact is that Manderly is called "Ser too fat to sit horse" by some. Which I think he used to his advantage in having to travel to Winterfell by boat instead of by horse along with the Frey boys, thus giving him plausible deniability. (He also made sure he gave them parting gifts so as to not run afoul of guest rights).
Various paraphrases of the name "Ser too fat too ..." have been used to describe GRRM by some when complaining of the pace that he puts out ASOI&F books.
Various paraphrases of the name "Ser too fat too ..." have been used to describe GRRM by some when complaining of the pace that he puts out ASOI&F books.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 1:52 pm to Methuselah
I thought Manderly rode to Winterfell in a carriage, but was moving slowly so as to frustrate the Freys into riding ahead, thereby giving himself an alibi.
I really thought Ramsay's made-up GF was going to be fake Arya. That shot of the GF and other girls looking pissed about the forthcoming marriage makes me wonder where the hell they're going with that.
Anyone think they might be taking the place of Mance's bitches? Maybe instead of having the plot to "rescue" fake Arya, it gets played out as Ramsay's GF getting jealous and turning on him. When she thought Ramsay liked another girl better, she had her hunted down and mauled by dogs, so it's not unbelievable. The show must have invented her for a reason.
I really thought Ramsay's made-up GF was going to be fake Arya. That shot of the GF and other girls looking pissed about the forthcoming marriage makes me wonder where the hell they're going with that.
Anyone think they might be taking the place of Mance's bitches? Maybe instead of having the plot to "rescue" fake Arya, it gets played out as Ramsay's GF getting jealous and turning on him. When she thought Ramsay liked another girl better, she had her hunted down and mauled by dogs, so it's not unbelievable. The show must have invented her for a reason.
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 4/27/15 at 1:56 pm to blueboy
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thought Manderly rode to Winterfell in a carriage, but was moving slowly so as to frustrate the Freys into riding ahead, thereby giving himself an alibi.
yes , not boat.
no boat could take you to Barrowtown or winterfell for that matter
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:08 pm to blueboy
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That shot of the GF and other girls looking pissed about the forthcoming marriage makes me wonder where the hell they're going with that.
I thought those were supposed to be hinted at being the spearwives Mance had placed in Winterfell.
Also does anyone know if the show is supposed to pass the book this season? It already seems to be moving so quickly.
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:14 pm to SundayFunday
Well, one of them was the girl he's been fricking for three seasons. Since there is no Mance and likely no "rescue" plan for Fake Arya/Sansa, maybe they're just scorned women who ally with Stannis or whomever (possibly LF) and take the Boltons and Freys down.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:21 pm to 68wDoc68w
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no boat could take you to Barrowtown or winterfell for that matter
Pretty sure The White Knife runs from White Harbor to Winterfell (or close to it).
And I'm fairly certain that he at least told the Freys that he took a boat.
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 4/27/15 at 3:03 pm to blueboy
I was curious about that too.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 3:14 pm to Methuselah
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Loved that they showed her hiding Needle instead of getting rid of it.
She hid needle in the book also. D&D has remained true on that point.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 3:14 pm to ladytiger118
I bet Sansa's traumatic/uncomfortable scene is Ramsey making Reek (Theon) eat her out like he did with Jeyne Poole (fake Arya) in the books
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 4/27/15 at 3:43 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
I hope not. It brings nothing to the TV show as far as story goes. We know Ramsay is sick. We saw him trust Reek with that razor around his neck. They don't need to do this.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 3:55 pm to SaintEB
I don't think the TV show will have Ramsay violate or hurt Sansa in any way. Roose already scolded Ramsay last episode about his harsh treatment of the Northerners and that their situation is very tenuous. Ramsay then said when he met Sansa that he would respect her. Now, Ramsay is a sick person, so of course he could be lying. But even he has to realize that harming Sansa is off limits as that would set the whole of the North in rebellion agaisnt the Boltons, something which will probably happen anyway. No point in stirring the pot any further by harming Sansa.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 3:56 pm to SaintEB
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I hope not. It brings nothing to the TV show as far as story goes. We know Ramsay is sick. We saw him trust Reek with that razor around his neck. They don't need to do this
I hope it's nothing sexual with Sansa too, but it's prolly something sex/torture though. It's gonna suck. I don't care if she gets slapped around cause we've already seen it.
Maybe she'll murder someone stabbing them to death. That would be a brutal scene not expected of her.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 3:58 pm to SoDakHawk
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No point in stirring the pot any further by harming Sansa.
But does he have the "self control" to not mess with Sansa? I hope he does, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.
ETA: Ramsey has never really ever should any signs of having any self control. The dude is a lunatic, and a lunatic is usually gonna lunatic.
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 4:05 pm
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