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re: Game Of Thrones S5:E10 "Mother's Mercy" BOOK READER THREAD

Posted on 6/13/15 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 7:10 pm to
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Wasn't he burned when he saved Mormont from the wight?

Pretty sure he was.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 7:39 pm to
Here is the evidence regarding his possibly burned hand I provided in the MGT previously: LINK

But be warned, if you insist his hand was burned, iluv will cut you.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 7:50 pm to
I mean he only flexes his "burned hand" in damn near every one of his POVs after the fact.
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 7:51 pm to
GRRM constantly makes notion to Jon flexing the fingers the hand and fingers that were "burned" he makes way to many references to it for it not to be some sort of coincidene.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 7:54 pm to
I know, I know, oh, oh, oh.


iluv just has strong feelings on the subject.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 8:02 pm to
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I mean he only flexes his "burned hand" in damn near every one of his POVs after the fact.

Right? It's annoying.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 8:06 pm to
I mean I get thinking that if you haven't read the books and especially right after Dany birthing the dragons in flame.

But I'd also think knowing a bit about the Targaryens who also thought they couldn't be burned would be pretty telling that it's not exactly a standard trait among that line.

Being a badass Targaryen isn't mutually exclusive with being resistant to flame.
This post was edited on 6/13/15 at 8:07 pm
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 8:13 pm to
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I mean I get thinking that if you haven't read the books and especially right after Dany birthing the dragons in flame.

What gets me are the book readers that believe Targs can't be burned. I can understand hodors believing that, but book readers have multiple accounts of Targs dying by fire related events.
Posted by Athanatos
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 8:16 pm to
I know Targs have burned in the past, but could Targ dragonriders be immune to burning? Dragons are fire made flesh, so it seems like a prerequisite.

ETA: maybe GRRM included the burned hand thing to contrast that with the post-stab POVs after Jon is reborn as Azor Ahai and he's no longer susceptible to fire as a dragonrider
This post was edited on 6/13/15 at 8:18 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 8:19 pm to
Pretty much. And like I said, it doesn't make you any less Targaryen if you aren't resistant to flame. Poor Egg.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 8:22 pm to
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What gets me are the book readers that believe Targs can't be burned. I can understand hodors believing that, but book readers have multiple accounts of Targs dying by fire related events.

Wasn't there a Targ who thought it was a good idea to drink wildfire?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 8:22 pm to
I'm pretty sure there's some Targ riders that died of flame of other dragons. I know off the top of my head that Rhaeynera (sp?) was fed to one in the Dance of Dragons.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 8:36 pm to
So I'm looking back at some of the deaths of the riders. Specifically the Aegons:

Aegon (son of Aenys I): Died in battle (as illustrated below from The World of Ice and Fire)



Aegon I (Aegon the Conqueror): Died of stroke while telling the story of his conquests to his grandsons.

Aegon II: Was poisoned in the Dance of Dragons

Aegon III: Consumption

Aemond: Died in the Dance over Harrenhall

Alysanne Targaryen: Thought to have died over the grief of the loss of her children.

Helaena Targaryen: Jumped to her death onto spikes at Maegor's Holdfast while captive.

And in Baela Targaryen's wiki is specifically mentions her being "burned and battered" in a battle with another dragon/dragonrider.
This post was edited on 6/13/15 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 8:47 pm to
And wasn't Dany blistered in the fighting pit when Drogon breathed fire on her?
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 9:02 pm to
yes
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

ETA: maybe GRRM included the burned hand thing to contrast that with the post-stab POVs after Jon is reborn as Azor Ahai and he's no longer susceptible to fire as a dragonrider
Dany is AA, IMO.

ETA: Someone posted the "previously on.." segment for E10 in the spoiler party. It's fairly enormous, if it's legit.
This post was edited on 6/13/15 at 9:06 pm
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 9:06 pm to
Honestly it seemed like it was fan made in certain sections of it IMO.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 9:09 pm to
And quite a bit longer than they usually are. I know.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 9:18 pm to
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And quite a bit longer than they usually are. I know.


Meh, they had one a couple episodes ago that felt like it was on for 10 minutes
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 6/13/15 at 9:25 pm to
I always skip the previously on and the intro anyways
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