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re: Game of Thrones S4:E8:"The Mountain and the Viper", HODORS ONLY no book readers
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:31 pm to Epic Cajun
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:31 pm to Epic Cajun
In the last episode of season 3, Davos got a letter from the nights watch that was basically asking for reinforcements. Davos took that to Stannis, who decided not to execute him because the red woman agreed that the war of 5 kings meant nothing and that the real war would be in the north. She saw a great battle in the snow when she was looking in the flames.
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:33 pm to Iona Fan Man
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great, she teleport them all?
They have ships?
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:33 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Davos got a letter from the nights watch that was basically asking for reinforcements. Davos took that to Stannis, who decided not to execute him because the red woman agreed that the war of 5 kings meant nothing and that the real war would be in the north. She saw a great battle in the snow when she was looking in the flames.
Yeah, but they just got a loan from people you don't want to disappoint specifically for the purpose of buying an army to take Kings Landing. I really don't think Stannis is headed to the Wall in the next 2 episodes. Plus the soldiers we saw them hire were Davos' pirate friend, not some group of infantry like the unsullied.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:34 pm to TigerinATL
Maybe not, but how is he getting to KL. Like I said, I doubt he's going to try to enter through Blackwater Bay.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:35 pm to TigerinATL
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I really don't think Stannis is headed to the Wall in the next 2 episodes.
Saving The Wall would look good on a resume though if you want the support of the people.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:36 pm to Billy Mays
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ETA: Maybe the white walkers show up and kill all the wildings and rally to Jon Snow for some unknown reason
yeah, exactly...that's was my thinking, that's why the stannis crap is pissing me off. So many "opinions" on stannis saving the day makes me think that they aren't "opinions"
We know the walkers are close....what's to say ..."winter is here" and right around the BIG FIGHT...walkers show and the wildlings start getting demo'd and Jon gathers the Crows to come to their aid with that black glass crap.
Jon reunited with ginger and he's back to getting some again, and they might even make him their leader in some form or another because he defeated a wave of Walkers or some shite so he's legendary in their eyes.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:41 pm to Iona Fan Man
I just think that the Walkers are still a ways off. I may be wrong, but I think a big battle with the WW and Wights is what the whole story is leading up to. Not something that'll happen half way through the story.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:41 pm to Iona Fan Man
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So many "opinions" on stannis saving the day makes me think that they aren't "opinions"
They seem like pretty legitimately arrived at but clearly wrong theories to me. Basically they are trying to figure out how 100 holds off 100,000 and the only piece on the board that they see to help Castle Black is Stannis. Reasonable enough except Jon Snow put the Wall itself into play as a piece that could save the day.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:43 pm to TigerinATL
Do we have an idea of how many of them (Wildlings or Thenns) are south of the wall already?
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:45 pm to Epic Cajun
No clue on the number, but the Wildling group Jon was with was reasonably small, and the Thenns didn't seem that big. The Night's Watch should be able hold them off from the south if they don't have to worry about the Wilding Army from the north.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:46 pm to TigerinATL
Stannis army of light = fire
Ice= The wall?
Only thing I see that makes any sense with the season title and the current story lines.
Walkers and dragons would make sense but to throw them together at this point would be beyond silly.
Ice= The wall?
Only thing I see that makes any sense with the season title and the current story lines.
Walkers and dragons would make sense but to throw them together at this point would be beyond silly.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:47 pm to Iona Fan Man
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yeah, exactly...that's was my thinking, that's why the stannis crap is pissing me off. So many "opinions" on stannis saving the day makes me think that they aren't "opinions"
The show has done everything but tell us directly that this will happen at this juncture. If Stannis doesn't go to the wall, then it will be a shock. Again, the season 3 finale spelled all of this out.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:56 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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The show has done everything but tell us directly that this will happen at this juncture.
Why "this juncture"? I believe they've told us Stannis is going to the Wall, but I don't think the vision specified a time frame or even ASAP, it just said what happens there is important and what happens in KL isn't.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:01 pm to TigerinATL
I hope you're right, because I don't want to see another redo storyline in which Stannis plays the role of Tywin. It just seems logical that if the Wall is the real priority that Stannis will probably go there.
Remember, the red woman's conclusion that the north was more important came in response to a somewhat urgent message that the blind maester sent following Sams return to the wall. I can't see Stannis reading that and taking his sweet time afterwards
Remember, the red woman's conclusion that the north was more important came in response to a somewhat urgent message that the blind maester sent following Sams return to the wall. I can't see Stannis reading that and taking his sweet time afterwards
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:20 pm to Antiheroaz
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Only thing I see that makes any sense with the season title and the current story lines.
"A song of fire and ice" is the name of the entire book series. It's not a season title or a book in the series
Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:27 pm to Iona Fan Man
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yeah, exactly...that's was my thinking, that's why the stannis crap is pissing me off. So many "opinions" on stannis saving the day makes me think that they aren't "opinions" We know the walkers are close....what's to say ..."winter is here" and right around the BIG FIGHT...walkers show and the wildlings start getting demo'd and Jon gathers the Crows to come to their aid with that black glass crap. Jon reunited with ginger and he's back to getting some again, and they might even make him their leader in some form or another because he defeated a wave of Walkers or some shite so he's legendary in their eyes.
If you legitimately think this is more probable given everything we know then I nominate you for King Super Hodor because you are fricking retarded.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:31 pm to jchamil
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I, for example, think there is no reasonable doubt about the ending of the Sopranos
Is it hijacking if I ask about this in this thread?
this will be a better source for you than any short post I make - I don't agree with everything he writes but as a whole I think it has the conclusions right:
LINK
Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:42 pm to wildtigercat93
GRRM really missed an opportunity to make the Red Wedding even more insanely evily better
I'll put this here since there are supposedly no book readers who can tell me why this version of the story wouldn't have have worked or been better.
So I was watching Red Wedding Reactions again and I remember Kat's plea to stop or she'd slit his wife's throat.
How awesome would it have been if he said, "no worries, I have a beautiful young red head on the way from King's Landing as we speak"
In one move, the guy who Ned made surrender, who was mocked by the other Lord's, who Rob humiliated by breaking his oath to marry his daughter......destroyed the rebellion, and gained control of Winterfell(Sensa, oldest remaining heir, Bram and Arya dead(assumed))
He would run Winterfell and the Riverlands.
Lanisters had sensa....it would have made more sense as to why the riverland lord would have killed Rob and everybody......over just because he felt insulted.
I'll put this here since there are supposedly no book readers who can tell me why this version of the story wouldn't have have worked or been better.
So I was watching Red Wedding Reactions again and I remember Kat's plea to stop or she'd slit his wife's throat.
How awesome would it have been if he said, "no worries, I have a beautiful young red head on the way from King's Landing as we speak"
In one move, the guy who Ned made surrender, who was mocked by the other Lord's, who Rob humiliated by breaking his oath to marry his daughter......destroyed the rebellion, and gained control of Winterfell(Sensa, oldest remaining heir, Bram and Arya dead(assumed))
He would run Winterfell and the Riverlands.
Lanisters had sensa....it would have made more sense as to why the riverland lord would have killed Rob and everybody......over just because he felt insulted.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:46 pm to Iona Fan Man
I think Sansa was still set to marry Joffery at that point
Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:47 pm to wildtigercat93
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I think Sansa was still set to marry Joffery at that point
shite
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