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re: Don't Pick Up The Phone (Netflix doc)

Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:04 am to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:04 am to
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I watched the first episode. No way in hell (even at the age of 18) I would have allowed the McDonalds manager or anyone else do that to me.



The detective talked about people that say this. This wasn't a one time thing from some stupid girl, it happened over 70 times. This guy was really good at it and would call and call until he got people to fall for it. Almost impossible to say this unless you were in that situation. He definitely preyed on a certain type of individuals though.

One of the other things that was wild is that it happened to kids under 18. I mean under what circumstances could an adult think its ok to strip search a minor? These managers were dumber/more at fault than the kids.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:12 am to
I think it’s the gradual steps that made it work for the caller. He’d start by asking the kid if they wanted to go to the police station and get strip searched, or if they would rather do it in their workplace. The kid doesn’t want their parents to find out that they somehow got into trouble, so they figure doing it at the workplace is better than having to call their parents from the intimidating police station. Instead of a yes or no proposition, he’s giving them an option to pick the lesser of two evils. Once they make a choice, he’s got them started down the path.
Posted by schatman
Montana
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:41 am to
The strip search, maybe I could see. But the sex acts?
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 12:20 pm to
Those McDonald's lawyers were disgusting.

"You were naked, beaten, had your car keys and clothes taken away. Why didn't you just leave?"

And the defense lawyer too. Pure scum.
Posted by tigers0615
Member since Feb 2019
395 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 12:21 pm to
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This guy was really good at it and would call and call until he got people to fall for it.


I wonder how many times he actually failed and someone hung on him.. I don't think that he actually visited these restaurants to know whether a "brown haired young girl" fit the description of someone who worked there in the past couple days. Its close but some had to have hung up knowing that it either a) didn't fit the description of anyone who worked there or b) they just didn't care and hung up the phone. Or how many played along until it got to the sex acts and then hung up... who knows how many more it could've been to.



quote:

Those McDonald's lawyers were disgusting.

"You were naked, beaten, had your car keys and clothes taken away. Why didn't you just leave?"

And the defense lawyer too. Pure scum.


They tried to say that she made it all up to get money..
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
72397 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:10 pm to
This documentary is a testament to just how terrifyingly dumb some people “in charge” can be.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:25 pm to
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Don't Pick Up The Phone (Netflix doc)




Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 4:08 pm to
finished the first two episodes, crazy
Posted by gameovergt
Orange Park, FL via Stevenson, AL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 10:05 am to
Detectives messed up when they id'd him. Thought he'd confess, lol.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38425 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 11:15 am to
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Detectives messed up when they id'd him. Thought he'd confess, lol.

It's like they've never watched a detective documentary. The guy was making it easy as hell for them. Just follow him and trace every call from every payphone that he uses.
Posted by gameovergt
Orange Park, FL via Stevenson, AL
Member since Nov 2010
1963 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 11:28 am to
Exactly. Surveil him 1st. They can't link him to actual calls.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 11:30 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56843 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 12:15 pm to
I assumed that the detectives were worried about it leaking to him that detectives had come to the warden trying to figure who he was. They probably thought that their cover would have been blown anyway so they just went for it. I'm not sure what else they could have done without their presence possibly being noticed in regards to him and brought to his attention.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:34 am to
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And the defense lawyer too. Pure scum.


My biggest takeaway. People like him need to rot.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56843 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 11:29 am to
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My biggest takeaway. People like him need to rot.



Isn't he just doing his job? Of course "just doing my job" has been the excuse for many historic travesties, but you might really need someone like him if you are ever accused of a crime that you did not commit.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 11:30 am
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:59 pm to
Sure but for the most part these lawyers aren't morons. They know when their clients are guilty and this guy is clearly guilty. So no you don't get to hide behind "just doing your job" when you help free a guy who ruined a lot of people's lives.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56843 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:02 pm to
I don't disagree that most lawyers like this guy are scumbags, but defense lawyers usually don't publicly state that their client is guilty do they?
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
16305 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:23 pm to
Somewhere, Charles Manson and every get-away driver who got convicted of first-degree crimes simply for their indirect participation is wishing they had that defense lawyer and that jury.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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56843 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:33 pm to
Never thought about that, but that seems to be an interesting point.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 4:14 pm to
Add in, the manipulative girl who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter for encourage-texting her oft-threatening-suicidal BF with a plan on how to finally go through with it. He killed himself with carbon monoxide car fumes. She got convicted and served 11 of 15 months in prison.

How is this dude's manipulation, direction and indirect participation in sexual assault/rape any less criminal?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56843 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 4:29 pm to
I wonder if the prosecution even made that argument? They f'd up if they didn't.
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